Episode 016: A Conversation with Your Higher Self
With Nanette Hucknall
The Higher Self is an aspect of our soul that protects, guides, and offers assistance to us so that we can live our soul's purpose. Many spiritual traditions speak of the Higher Self as the all-knowing spiritual guide within each of us.
On this episode I speak with Author and Psychotherapist Nanette Hucknall about how connecting with our Higher Self supports us in our spiritual growth, aligns us with our dharma, and guides us in our life's journey.
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Episode Transcript:
Nanette Hucknall: And I suddenly felt this deep inner peace come over me and it was like all my attachments and desires, anything, all my mundane junk had left me and I could feel who I really was
Cameron: welcome to the Path and Purpose Podcast, where your journey of self-discovery meets with a collective awakening of humanity. I'm your host, Dr. Cameron Martin. In this exciting time of expansion and growth, we are witnessing a profound shift in consciousness. As spiritually awakening individuals, we are called to embrace our inner wisdom intuition and the deeper knowing that we're meant for more.
As an eternal student of the universe and a spiritual leader, I have dedicated my life to supporting your journey of transformation. Through this podcast, we embark on a shared [00:01:00] exploration where you can find inspiration, insights, and guidance from the stories of others who are walking similar paths, to see your truth reflected in their experiences, and to ignite the confidence to believe in the bigger purpose that awaits you.
This podcast is here to provide inspiration, insights, and guidance so that the path to living your soul's purpose becomes less of a mystery and more of a discovery.
Humanity's Ascension is calling for courageous souls like yours. Together we rise, aligning with our higher selves and embracing our divine nature. Get ready to be inspired, encouraged and reminded of the magnificent being that you are. Join me for this episode of the podcast where we will explore the many paths to living our soul's purpose. [00:02:00] In this episode of the podcast, I'm here with author and psychotherapist, Nanette Hucknall, who has published nine books that combine spiritual study and psychology practice to form the foundational canon of higher self yoga, a body of work that shares the name of her organization that she founded to promote the practice of harnessing your ultimate higher power.
Track 1: I'm very excited to have this conversation today. Nanette, welcome.
Nanette Hucknall: Thank.
you so much. I'm very happy to be here
and thank you for bringing me.
Track 1: Absolutely. So we're gonna jump right in with the first question, if you could bring us back into maybe your journey, what really marks the beginning of your spiritual journey.
Nanette Hucknall: Well, I was thinking about this and the first thing I could think about was when, when I was young I was very religious. I was a Episcopalian, went to church every single Sunday, was very conscious about it. And I even one a scholarship for camp [00:03:00] a a a camp scholarship, which was also wonderful for me. I was, I think 15 or 16, and I went to this camp and I met this young minister. So I'd befriended and he befriended me basically. And we had a lot of talks and one of the things I asked him had been bothering me was, you always talk about a just God, but I'm looking and there's people that are very wealthy and people that are poor, and people that are, are tripled. And I just moved to the south and I said, the way they treat blacks down here is horrible.
So how can God be just, and he
couldn't answer me. He literally could not answer me. Uh, he did, gave me answers, but he couldn't answer me, you know, so I could really understand what he meant or what he meant about God being just so, I got very disillusioned and I end up leaving the church. [00:04:00] I came outta camp, said I'm never gonna go to church again, and I don't believe in God anymore. was very definitely upset about it. And then when I was about 23, I went to Europe for six months with a friend and I had never been in the country. I lived in small towns near big cities. Mostly I'd never been a country was the local park, you know, local park. And we, we went to the lake country in England for about a week and I got up in the morning and went and sat by the lake. And it was surrounded by these beautiful trees and greenery and it was, the sun was just coming up over the lake. It was just beautiful and I felt the vibration and I never meditated, but I also, I just closed my eyes and felt the vibration of nature and the [00:05:00] beauty of nature. I believe in God again. I said, there's gotta be something that made this. And I just, I can't believe there's not something up there that made this beauty. So when I came back in my twenties, I did go back to the Episcopal church. I decided to start stunning other religions, and that's why I discovered about. and reincarnation, and that answered the answer, the questions that I had about why there was a just God there.
Of course, there was a just God because karma, reincarnation just really explained it all. So, uh, during that time I was studying Zen Buddhism. I was studying a few things, and then I had a series of very miraculous events that happened to me that that brought me to my spiritual teacher. My spiritual teacher, who is my, my really my guru, uh, was teaching Agni yoga. And [00:06:00] Agni yoga is, um, a yoga that is really kind of combines Raja, which is, which is the mind and the heart, which is BTI and Karma, which is service in the world.
It was the combination of all three. So I was in that teaching for a long time and my teacher died when I was 42. And after that I started, I co co-founded an organization, uh, called the Center for Peace through Culture and. I was in New York City at the time, lived in New York City and it actually became very popular. We were doing some wonderful problems with artists, scientists and Phil, you know, philosophers and uh, and grew very quickly and we had a lot of volunteers. So I said, you know, I real, I was an art director, by the way.
This was my profession in New York. And I decided I really need to learn people's skills. Our office for [00:07:00] C P C was in the Psychosynthesis Institute, and Psychosynthesis is a transpersonal psychotherapy that was designed and, and created by Roberto Assagioli. And in that, he actually, uh, I decided to actually take the course, the training course, so I would learn people skills. And in the psychosynthesis they teach about the higher self. That's where I discovered the higher self, that it was considered the, the, the spiritual higher part of the, of Psychosynthesis. During that time, a friend came to visit me and said she was hated her job. She had known what to do with her life, and she just Was really, really upset. So I said, let's do exercise. So I did a higher self exercise with her and she [00:08:00] discovered her vocation 'cause the higher self really knew what that was.
Track 1: Mm-hmm.
Nanette Hucknall: uh, and so she, in turn, I. I told all our friends, I suddenly had people coming to me to do career therapy, and that's how I started off being a career therapist. And I ended up being a psychotherapist.
But uh, in the career therapy, I worked directly with the higher self. And I realized, you know, the higher self has been in all the yoga traditions for hundreds of years, but it's always the spiritual component of those, of those, those. Was yogas, and by discovered that the higher self was more than just the spiritual part of the person, that it was very practical.
It knew everything about the person. 'cause in that Career therapy one, one session, I had a with a person, she flipped into a past life, which I know what's going on, and she didn't know what was going on. I said, wait a minute. I gotta stay with this. And [00:09:00] she was seeing a past life where she was a man and I And I took her through the life. And what happened was she died having failed by doing her vocation, having felt that she had totally failed, and that was what she had to do in this life, was to redo that vocation. So I then realized that the higher self not only could understood, but a person. Who the person was, understood all about the past lives of a person and all the things that the person has brought into that life. And, And, from there on, I just started, I wrote my first book of Higher Self and the people in my class, Agni class, some of the people read the book and they said, we wanna do a class in the higher self. I said, well, okay, start off with a class in the higher self. And then it grew. And right now I have classes all the way across the country and in Canada, and then started really writing the books in the higher self. But that was my [00:10:00] duction to it, to the higher self and really my, my purpose.
Track 1: Beautiful. Oh my goodness. I'm so excited to have this conversation with you. It's gonna go in a bunch of places for sure. First of all, a lot of resonance in my own journey. I grew up, um, Roman Catholic and I was very devout religious. I went to church every Sunday and honestly, Saturday, Sunday, I, um, Was a choir director.
I taught catechism. I thought I'd be a priest in my early twenties. And
interestingly enough, , I'm healing a lot of trauma from other lives as a priest, in this lifetime. But, um, and for me, It was a trip to the Vatican where I was like, yeah, I don't wanna do this anymore. I don't want anything. I don't, it wasn't that I didn't believe in God, actually.
I always knew about my connection with the creator, although my understanding of God is nothing like it used to be at all. Uh, you know, I understand myself [00:11:00] as, uh, an expression of the infinite consciousness, one source universe, whatever we wanna call it. It. Um, but yeah, and it's interesting, my journey also took me to the east, uh, or eastern philosophically, although I have visited India.
Um, and for me, Buddhism is definitely a piece, but Hinduism in particular and certainly the practices or the teachings of the yogis and different practices. I do wanna point out, um, for those who are listening, you spoke about, um, a couple of different types of yoga and .For those of you who are not necessarily, uh, familiar with this in the West and in the US we typically hear yoga and we think of yoga as one thing, Asana, which
is movement.
Yeah. And that is
actually only one piece, one facet of what we're talking about here. So when Nanette mentioned Raja and some of these others, um, it's [00:12:00] not just physical asana movement, but actually, I guess I would say it this way. You might say it a different way, but. A full comprehensive, we could say it.
Understanding of spiritual knowledge really., which unfortunately I think in the west we sort of don't know the full depth of yoga teachings because we . Sort of divorce, the physical asana from the spiritual knowledge. I say that all to say there's so much resonance in what you shared. Some of the work that I do is actually, Q H H T, quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique, which is based on Dolores Cannon's work, with the higher self and, It's fascinating when I go into regressions with clients or whatever and we're asking
questions directly of the higher self.
'cause it is an experience and I, I'd like to ask what you feel here too, but for me it's an experience unlike any other that's incredibly
loving and the clarity. It's almost like, duh, , [00:13:00] our conscious minds think and overthink and overthink things. But when you ask with the, you know, ask the higher self.
Something because they have the bigger they, if you want to call it that, it has the bigger picture of all incarnations and really the soul's journey. know, I'm thinking about, um, a, a recent session with a client who was wondering about binge eating, and she wanted to know why she's binge eating all the time, and she wasn't happy about that and her higher self, very simply and clearly said, well, yeah, you're seeking experiences, you're bored.
Where you're living isn't supportive of the experiences you want culturally, you know, museums, friends, all these things, when you move, the cravings will go away too, and your body will go back to the way it was and it happened. She moved and uh, things shifted and it's like you hear it and you go, well, duh, that makes a lot of sense.
But, you know, our conscious minds don't think in the same [00:14:00] way as the wisdom that really comes from the higher self. Right.
Nanette Hucknall: Yes, absolutely. And, and this higher itself is so direct and clear in what it says, and it's just, it's just, and it's also very, I feel very loving. You can feel it just cares about what you do. It's a, it's a wonderful feeling to be in it.
Track 1: What does it feel like for you to be connected with either your higher self or in the nature of your work, the higher selves of others?
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah. Well, in the nature of my work, I find it very interesting because sometimes a person will get the higher self being a clown. So I have 'em visualize the higher self and sometimes the The first time they came in as a clown play. I said, why you like a clown? She says, because you need, this person needs to play and have fun and, and go out there and enjoy life. So I see that
the higher [00:15:00] self appears in so many different ways to people. I. .But you know, uh, for myself, I've always had such wonderful experience with my higher self. I see. As a really old, old man with a long white beard. And, and, uh, and it's, it's just, it's got this wisdom to it. And that's the other thing that the higher self is the wise part, part of you that really understands you and has all that wisdom. But one time I was really connected and I said, you know, Can you let me experience what you really feel like, really feel like? And I suddenly felt this deep inner peace come over me and it was like all, all my attachments and desires, anything, all my mundane junk had left me and I could feel who I really was. I could [00:16:00] really feel the essence of who I was and it was a, a wholeness I've never felt in my life or. It's just so complete and it, it's like who I really am. And if I really get into the mundane stuff in my life and, and get involved in stuff that is, it's got a lot of work and all this stuff around me, I will just try to take a minute to stop it. Just to try to remember, I gotta go back to being in that calm, wonderful, inner place of who I really am.
So,
Track 1: Yeah. . Everybody has it. And it's a matter of right,
accessing that or what is in the way of you accessing it and you say it, the busyness of
life, the responsibilities, your ego, your fears, your worries, your concerns, all of these things. And you know, I had a really profound experience with my higher self,
I've always been very spiritual, but I sort of, [00:17:00] Um, point to a moment in 2000 February of 2019, where I very much felt, I mean, it was the total presence of my higher self embodied, but I very much felt like I left my body and boom, returned back into it almost like my soul bounced out and came back in.
But when it did, I had very similar experience to what you're saying, and this peace and this bliss.
This oneness feeling of this connection to all that is like, I knew myself as the tree and as that person, and as this person. And I remember going out to dinner at a pretty bad restaurant, to be honest with you, . And like it was the best meal of my life, . And I just remember thinking, um, you know, bliss, all of all that is, um, And you know, it didn't last forever.
That connection is kind of what you're talking about. Because frankly, I think living here on earth, [00:18:00] if we are in this state all the time, it's not conducive to us functioning down here. So even
though people are, you know, I always seeking enlightenment and seeking, you know,
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah.
Track 1: even that connection with the higher self, um, We, we can't quite stay there all the time and function here, but nonetheless, it sparked for me my journey of sharing that with others, which is what you're saying.
It exists because that's our essence actually. It's what we are. Love, peace, this consciousness of understanding and connectedness. And so when I work with my clients, It is hard to describe what's going to happen , but the creation of this space, at least for that, for people to experience because you can only experience, frankly, um, your higher self.
You can talk about it. We can and we will obviously, but it's a different thing altogether when this idea of [00:19:00] a higher self or this sort of . Guardian aspect of our soul that has a bigger, uh, perspective, whatever. It's one thing when that's here in the mind. Um, and it's another when that sits here in the heart and we actually
feel it .
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah.
Track 1: know it and embody it and me speaking it, I can't make somebody know it, but we can let them know of it so that,
you know, we create the space for opportunity.
Right.
Nanette Hucknall: Hmm, definitely. Most definitely. I mean, that's, that's my whole purpose too, is to get people just to start working with it. 'cause once they, you know, it's interesting 'cause I, I, I really talk a lot about the practical side of the higher self. In fact, my last book was Higher Self, A Practical, you know, the, the practical part. And I do that because if people aren't really spiritual, They're not interested in the spiritual stuff. They can still work with the higher self on the [00:20:00] mundane stuff
and 'cause it will help them in their jobs. It will help them, the relationships, it will help them in everything they do and they start working with it that way. They're starting to open it up. When they start opening it up, they also start opening up their spirit.
Track 1: I think for a lot of people, manifestation is sort of this gateway drug into spirituality for a lot of reasons be. But one of 'em I think is because
When we talk about manifestation and our vibration and attracting law of attraction, these sorts of things, we see it practically in our experience. And when we do, then we start to trust and learn and know, oh wow, look, look at that universal law. Maybe people aren't saying that, but look at how this is happening.
I'm actually learning about, um, well, my connection to myself and the universe and how this works. And so, yeah, they're very practical ways. I mean, . I connect with my higher self and ask [00:21:00] all kinds of questions. Esoterically more in a spiritual level a lot, but in the physical too, .
I'm curious what sort of tools, and maybe even it is the understanding of yoga that has helped you sort of on your spiritual journey.
Nanette Hucknall: Well, of course my teacher helped
me a lot. Even though he is passed, he's still there helping me. And uh, and this whole psychological training that I had, that psychosynthesis just, you know what? I look at my path. Everything that's happened to me, I'm sure it's happened to you the same way I would never have expected. It just fell into place, into place so that all the things I needed to do. Be on that path came came into being, well, my teacher told me I was gonna be a writer. I had no idea I was gonna discover the higher self and start writing about the higher self and start working with the higher self. [00:22:00] And, and it was just all kinda laid out if I hadn't taken that training, if I hadn't done this. But, you know, it, it's like you're, you're directed by all the things that is part of your dharma. Dharma meaning your spiritual path and also your, your life's work path. the eastern phrase for that. And it, and if you follow that, it's, and you, and you go with it, it, it all takes place. So I, because so many things happen to me, even at the beginning, I just really followed it. And realize that, that this is how I had, I just had a fault call up. Whatever happened to me. Well, it was meant to happen. it's, I go, I just follow it and in following it, it's come a long, long way.
Track 1: Yeah. Well, there comes a place and, and a difference of experience when you realize and know through your connection with your higher [00:23:00] self. And your guides for angels, your team, you know, these beings that are working with you,
that, um, you really did set up a journey for yourself before you got here. And if you would just learn to surrender and maybe play a little bit and just sort of trust that there is actually a path unfolding.
I mean, for me, A big piece in my own journey was astrology, and this is, you know, a tool that I use with my clients to understand, look, you a soul chose to come into a body, you know, and you had a, you had a a plan, you had a blueprint, you set something up for yourself in this incarnation, maybe to deal, or partly to deal with karma and other incarnations to find balance in your own souls experiences, et cetera.
Um, While you do have free will because we are beings of free will living down here in the universe of free will, uh, we can choose to ignore the path. And a lot of people are because they're unconscious. But [00:24:00] when you are conscious of the fact that, oh yeah, actually there was sort of this blueprint for me before, and there are things that I set up.
You know, for you where I'm gonna write books, I'm gonna teach about the higher self. And even the first time you hear it, your conscious mind is like, what? ? I don't know that I don't know how to get there. Um, but the higher self knows all along sort of what's in that journey. And this is why I think, you know, astrology is so powerful for people to reflect on, what is that?
What did you sign up for? What is that journey looking like? But essentially this all comes down to . consciousness, right?
You have a new book that is just released, , Zarathustra's Journey. . Can you share a little bit with the audience,
Nanette Hucknall: okay.
Well, I wanna first say that, uh, when I first met my teacher, I was at a class and I was meditating. I saw the book cover with saying Z Zarathustra's Journey by Nanette [00:25:00] Hucknall, and I was an art director at the time, and I said, asked my teacher, what am I seeing this for? He said, because this is a book that's meant to write later in life. And I said, I'm gonna be a writer. He said, absolutely, you're gonna be a writer. And I was so excited 'cause I loved to write and my closest friends were writers, but because they were such good writers, I'd never even thought I could ever be a writer. So, uh, I was very happy about that, even though at the time I did not know what I was gonna write. And I, when I look back on it, I realize that Uh, Zora Thra by the name is, uh, is the name of a, it's really Zora Astor, who was a, a Persian prophet that lived in the 600 BC or 1500 BC and he starred a religion called Zora Aism. And the two oldest religions on the planet that we know about is Hinduism and Zora Aism. [00:26:00] So, uh, Sarah Che is the western name for Zora Astor and Frederick Nietzsche a uh, German philosopher who at the time I had studied philosophy. So I knew who he was and I knew that he had written a book called, thus Spoke Zare Sutres. And I actually hadn't even read it. So I said, why am I doing this book with that name? At the time, I didn't understand why, but thus spoke Raus is about, uh, a prophet, a spiritual leader who comes down from the mountain to teach, uh, humankind. And one of the themes he teaches is about the Superman within each person, and the Superman was the higher self. Basically, and, uh, so that was why I was supposed to use this title for this book because my book is about, the first part is about a Swiss, a [00:27:00] professor of philosophy in Zurich teaching at the university there, and it's about his spiritual journey. He doesn't have a teacher at the beginning. In his story, he meets his teacher And goes through the whole process of being a student, a spiritual student, and having things open to him, having doubts, having fears, having inspiration, having creativity. All the things that happen to somebody that's entering a spiritual path, including some phenomena that happens to him. And he's also very psychological because he also has a, a lot of problems with his family, which he has to look at psychologically. He has a lot of romantic things that's happened to him, and that's all explored. It's a, it's a real novel in terms of a person's spiritual growth, a person's spiritual journey, and he, in the [00:28:00] first part, Has been given the fact that he has to write a book and the book he has to write is part two, which is the the teacher coming down from Mountain. And in that book, the uh, teacher comes down from the mountain. He's never, he's been in the mountain for eight years being a hermit. And his guru, who is an Indian woman, has told him he's gotta come down and teach higher self yoga to the, to the different villages in Switzerland. And he doesn't know anything about how to do that. So it's interesting 'cause it's about his personal journey as a teacher. for for the first time as a teacher, having students enter who wanted to learn from him. Having to teach people about things that no one knows about, like reincarnation, about the subtle world, about energy, how to work with energy, about the nature and that nature.
[00:29:00] Spirits, all the things that are a lot of in, in the esoteric teachings, he has to teach to people that know nothing about it. And he, and he teaches it with also about the higher self. And so the first part is about the student. The second part is about the teacher. And I realized I had to go through that. I. I had to go through my years of being a student and now, now I've been a teacher for, for many years. So I had to go through both of those parts of my own life to be able to write this book and bring, make it something that is really happens that really happened to me and what happened to anybody on a spiritual journey. So it's about also saying that if you enter a spiritual path, you do grow spiritually. And of course the higher self is the part that will help you grow spiritually. As you, as you move along that path. So that's basically the book. It's a big book too.
Track 1: Beautiful. So was this, I mean, [00:30:00] maybe , maybe the answer's this straightforward, but was this a channeled work and how much of your own journey is actually in it?
Nanette Hucknall: Well, part of it was, and part of it was, but the, there's a lot of it in my own that's coming from me too, and a lot, many things there are that, that's my personal journey. So, uh, it, it was, it was really fun to write. Most of my books, by the way, they're nonfiction. I. And in all my nonfiction books, I do have short little stories to illustrate the text, and I have exercises for the people to do in the books. From the books. And also in this book, in the second part, I have exercises for, he gives his students to do in terms of getting in touch with the higher self and so on. So, uh, it's says a lot of my, a lot of it's my creation and a lot of it is kind of been given to me. So, uh, it just kind of flows into that.
Track 1: I'm curious that book, um, you know, how do you think it can serve as [00:31:00] a guide for people's spiritual journeys? Obviously the book is about a character's journey and there are tools and things being shared, but how do you think, I'll go back to the practical parts of your work, , um, that it can be a practical tool for people on their own spiritual journey.
What do you think they can take from it?
Nanette Hucknall: Well, I think they can
take the feeling of what it means to start working with their higher selves,
Track 1: with with
Nanette Hucknall: which is really important.
I mean, everybody's an individual,
as you know. I mean, and when they start to
really
look at who they are,
Track 1: look at who
Nanette Hucknall: not just in this
life, but in past life too.
They get
a, I'm starting to get an understanding of their own personal evolution.
Everybody's evolution is
very individual.
Track 1: is very
Nanette Hucknall: The higher self within every person
is very individual, but that higher self is still connected spiritually to the, the highest of, of spiritual things. We, I even call it sometimes the over self, which has all the knowledge and wisdom of, [00:32:00] of everybody, everything that is, is planned for in the spiritual journey for, for individuals. So it's a, it's a whole journey of not just you, yourself, spiritually learning what you, who you are, but it's, it's coming into a place where you can also learn how to really feel all the qualities of the higher self, which is compassion for others, understanding of others, really being able to help others, you know, through the heart, through mirroring somebody. It's about Using those qualities of the higher self, which you have, and opening them up. them up because they're there. But see, opening 'em up, that is the process and that's what why I feel it's so important to, to, to start working with the higher self. 'cause that will help you open up your own personal qualities that you can give to others. To me it's also very important to, to give what [00:33:00] your knowledge is spiritually to other people. And the higher self yoga is, is one of the things that I, I've developed for that to happen.
Track 1: So do you think that you're living your purpose
Nanette Hucknall: Oh yes, definitely. I'm very old now. So I definitely am. Be my per, I've lived my purse. Yeah. It's been a
wonderful journey
Track 1: What do you think limits people from living their purpose?
Nanette Hucknall: Well, I think number one, they, if they found their purpose, they know their purpose. They have to own it. I don't know if they can own it. The, the reason why they can't open it own it is because they might have some very strong, you know, Child problems, which says, I'm not good enough. You might be given, you might think of a purpose that you really want and you can say, I, I can't do that. I'm not good enough to do that. And what they don't realize is everybody has a purpose and you would not be given [00:34:00] a purpose if you couldn't do it. We didn't have the ability to do it. And what stops people is their own feelings of not being good enough of self-criticism. Really criticizing themselves, feeling they're just, who's me?
I can't do that. It's about believing in yourself. You know, I always say the most important thing is to love yourself, that's not egotistical. Because if you really believe and love yourself then, then, you're open to loving everyone. That's where unconditional love is. You can't love, be, have, have unconditional love, which is part of the higher self.
You can't have that unless you love yourself, because then you don't have any needs. If you love yourself, you're not needy to having somebody else love you. All. All those psychological issues are what stop you from feeling, fulfill your purpose. [00:35:00] Because if you can just really feel that purpose in your heart and know that's what it is and know you can do it, then it's direct. There's no stepping side. It's all very direct in, its its direction to fulfillment, but it's verys
far. Very few people can do that. Unfortunately. That's why I really
believe in therapy spiritually. I mean, I, I have all my students doing therapy because I found that if if you have psychological blocks, it's gonna completely stop you on a spiritual path. You just
can't go further. You're,
Track 1: The spiritual path is about working through these things, right? When you were sharing,
you know, to know oneself is to love oneself because. You are a being
of love .That is your
essence, right? So, and anything that keeps us from that, you know, even in my work, I mean, [00:36:00] I use astrology, I use, um, you know, Q H H T and my coaching stuff.
It's very much even as an astrologer, , I'm very focused on evolution. And we're talking about your trauma and we're talking about your blocks, and we're talking about your limiting beliefs because as you just said, These are the things that will prevent us from living our dharma, but you had, and have a reason for being here.
But you know, living our dharma is not, uh, Not without work. in the sense that once you say yes and totally commit, you're gonna get put through the wringer. All of your limitations, all of the things that tell you I'm not good enough, or can't do this, or can't do that, they're all gonna come up, you know?
Um, for you seeing the cover of your book, I've seen the cover of my book as well, how that's gonna come into being. . . I don't know. I've got plenty. Uh, my, my ego's got plenty of limitations and worries and whatevers that I will have to work through in order for that [00:37:00] to come into being. But I see the cover clear as day.
I know what the title is and I know kind of what it's about, but I don't know how it's gonna happen. and. Saying yes to that, or even like this journey I'm on right now for a few months, going to these countries, having spiritual experiences, my ego's like, what are you doing? You need to work . But I am. Um, but it's different.
You know, my, my journey is one of trust and knowing that, yeah, there's a reason for this and I'll be pushed, whatever, limiting beliefs I have, whatever issues, you know, when we start saying yes to living our purpose. We say yes to doing the work in order to get there. Right?
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah. But I think that you have to also
look what you're doing as, as part of
that work, because in, I'm sure that on these, this travels that you're doing, you are learning a lot. I mean, I,
I've,
Track 1: ton.
Nanette Hucknall: yeah, I have, [00:38:00] I've done a lot of travels. I've, I've traveled most every place in the world except for Australia, and, and South America.
But I find that, to know other people and how they live and their culture of these other people is so important for the work because even with everybody's very different, they still have that inner part of them that is, that is still the same, like the higher self, so that it's, you have to look at them as individuals and, and know how to speak to them to reach them spiritually. Because they're also very different in their cultural background. And I think in today's world where everybody's is in conflict, it's so hard to, to bring that to together to make that happen. And I, and I do believe in the future that there'll be some way in the future [00:39:00] when we all can live in a peaceful planet. It might be a lot of things happening before that to make that happen. but I think that is the goal of our evolution as a planet, that we need to strive for the peace on the planet, so,
Track 1: Yeah, I agree. And the, the catalysts necessary for us to realize that we are connected to a higher self , right. Whatever's gonna happen in the world for us to realize our true spiritual nature, to bring us all together to,
I mean, that's the work, that's why we're down here. Right.
Um, it's interesting when you talk about
Uh, the expressions of travel too and what kind of comes through that on this journey. I've been to many different places now in a lot of different energies and integrating all of it's gonna take a while. But my, I was very surprised to find on this journey. My higher self has been guiding, obviously, but needed to show me a particular place that I had no idea [00:40:00] I would have so much resonance with.
And that's Greece. I hadn't really, I wanted to go to Greece in the past, but hadn't thought too too much about it. And then I went to Santorini and then I left and went to Northern, or went to Ireland, and then I came back, I went to Crete and I had all these experiences that were pretty profound and knowing that like, wow, this is familiar and this is like a soul home.
There are things here for me, and I went on hikes and felt like pieces of my soul coming back. And what was revealed to me was there are many sacred places in Greece that I am meant to bring people to and to show and to share. And of course my conscious mind is like how and I don't know anything about Greece or Greek culture.
I even went to, uh, a healing temple in this beautiful ancient city or town. Um, I don't even know the name of the Greek God of healing , but that's what it
was. I went [00:41:00] to Athens and didn't realize until I sat down in meditation that it was Athena herself who drew me to the city. I. , by the way, I didn't even realize that the city was named after her
So it's like all of these, my conscious mind is like, I don't know any of these things yet at the soul level, right? And at my higher self level, it's like I know what I'm doing or I know what we're doing. and I had so many experiences there of deep knowing and a deep resonance and like, wow, my nervous system feels
So at ease and so much knowing and so much this feeling of you need to come back and share the sacred places with others. I was like, okay,
Nanette Hucknall: Okay.
Track 1: And you know, that's what, to me, at least, one of the things that, I've had many revelations on this trip, but that was one of them that I was really surprised and that's coming straight from my higher self, not my conscious mind.
Nanette Hucknall: is that gonna be a book
Track 1: [00:42:00] Sounds like a good one. Yeah.
Nanette Hucknall: It sounds like a good book. Yes. yeah. I've been to all
those
Track 1: yeah, probably
Nanette Hucknall: I've been to Creighton, Santorini, all those places too, actually. I've done all of that. I just, same thing, I I, I went to a lot of places where I could, I really could remember, I had been there before in another lifetime and it
was, yeah. All
Track 1: felt like being in Greece, uh, but especially Crete. Crete, for me, I, I must have, I mean I know this 'cause I experienced it when I was there. I've had so many soul experiences there. I was sitting in a Cafe Crete eating Crete and food go and listening to music going, my God, nothing feels more natural going exactly what I'm doing right now.
It's like, oh my gosh, this food, I know my body knows in some weird way, not even my soul knows. And, oh, this music, um, Yeah, it's just very interesting. , And I guess, you know, when we learn to connect and live in connection with our higher selves, we experience [00:43:00] our lives in a way that can feel like that like breathing the familiar and knowing where our soul belongs, um,
Nanette Hucknall: Have you been to
India yet? Have you been to
India?
Track 1: Yes. Yes, yes. , I, uh, I was mostly in Mumbai, but I did go to Agra and New
Delhi. Uh, I. Both. Well, I love India and I love Indian culture. I love Indian food. I love wearing Indian clothing. Um, but I will say that experience in India was very upfronting, uh, for my nervous system and for being a person in the west going to India, I felt like, oh my God, this must be what it feels like to go to a different planet
I would, I had a hard time feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm on the same planet. It was so wildly
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah, the
poverty is so bad.
Track 1: deep love.
Nanette Hucknall: Yeah. The poverty is so bad.
And also the rich, I mean, they actually, there are more millionaires in India than there are in any other country. [00:44:00] And you, so you have the, the, the millionaires and the, and the, the very, very poor little kids on the street holding babies coming up to your car.
All the, all that I found very disturbing. But, but some of
Track 1: Yeah. But the thing I think I also understood about India, or my experience of it was, For a country that is so rich spiritually, which I
believe it is. Um, culturally there's so many differences, but that is this, that is the experience on earth, the disparity,
the difference. You know, with such high, we'll say spiritual knowledge also comes deep unconsciousness,
and we see kind of both.
I thought India was just, I love that place. Everyone in my close circle who's listening to this episode knows I listen to Indian music, mostly .
Anyway, thank you so much for this time today. I've really enjoyed this conversation. I know my listeners will
as well.
Nanette Hucknall: enjoyed it all, so thank you.
Track 1: You're welcome. And for those of you who'd like to [00:45:00] connect with Nanette's work, you can check out the links in the show notes.
So thank you so much.
Nanette Hucknall: Well, thank you too. It is nice talking to you.
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