Episode 015: Self-Love and the Spiritual path
With elle ebizadeh
One of the most important lessons on the spiritual path is learning to accept ourselves and to know love for ourselves. Now, it's easy to talk about self-love and it's another thing altogether to realize the practice and exercise it in our lives.
On this episode I speak with Entrepreneur and Relationship Coach, Elle Ebizadeh about the importance of expressing self-love on the spiritual path.
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Episode Transcript:
Elle Ebizadeh: because we're here to be loved, to love and love others. That's it. I mean, it's just everything to me is about relationship and love.
That's all there is to it.
welcome to the Path and Purpose Podcast, where your journey of self-discovery meets with a collective awakening of humanity. I'm your host, Dr. Cameron Martin. In this exciting time of expansion and growth, we are witnessing a profound shift in consciousness. As spiritually awakening individuals, we are called to embrace our inner wisdom intuition and the deeper knowing that we're meant for more.
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One of the most important lessons on a spiritual journey is the lesson of self-love. Now [00:02:00] we souls that came into bodies to have life experiences. Our essence is love, but down here on earth. The game that we're playing is one of separation and division one of four getting one of having us not remember that we are in fact love. And so we move through life focused upon work and upon achievement and upon all these other things. And we forget ultimately to love ourselves. And yet. On the journey. It's easy to talk about self-love and it's another thing altogether to realize the practice and the exercise of self love. Because most of us are conditioned with a lot of judgment, with a lot of fear. There's a lot of worry. And all these things separate ourselves from the essence that we truly are, which is love. And so in this episode, we're going [00:03:00] to share some ideas around self-love. Um, but ultimately I invite you to open your heart here. And as you listen to the episode today to consider where it is, you can soften to open your own heart into accepting yourself more because ultimately the work of self-love is the work of coming to know yourself and it is required on the spiritual journey. And as we come to know ourselves in love, we can live our purpose.
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Cameron: On this week's episode, I am
joined by Elle Ebizadeh entrepreneur and relationship coach. She's not only weathered the storm of heartbreak, but has emerged as a guiding light for those seeking profound connections with others. Her journey began as a trailblazing entrepreneur, and now, She's a passionate relationship coach. she earned a master's in strategy from Pepperdine University. [00:05:00] She built and sold thriving companies and definitely achieved success. But the breakup that shattered her world became the turning point that ignited her purpose and her direction. Welcome Elle
Elle: Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here,
Cameron: Likewise. Glad to have you with me. So I'm curious, we were just talking a little bit before I hit record here, and we have, uh, certainly some similarities in our journey here. But I really wanna start by asking you what marked the beginning of your journey of your
spiritual
awakening?
Track 1: I mean, uh, when I look back, uh, I was always into reading books, self development, uh, since I was a teenager. Uh, but. Seven years ago when I sold my last company, um, I kind of, I explored and I took more classes. I had more time to, uh, explore and see what's my [00:06:00] purpose. I was always thinking about, okay, so why am I, what, what am I doing here?
What am, why am I here? So then it just kind of went through and my breakup open. me up to taking more classes. I don't know if you heard about, uh, Mindvalley,
but I took a... Yeah, so I still take classes on there. I took a class about conscious uncoupling at,
uh, Catherine Woodward Thomas. It's under her book.
And then I realized, oh my God, now I understand what happened in my relationship. What was my 2 percent that I contributed to this relationship that it did not work out. And then I said to myself, Oh, this is, this is the way to go. That's my next way of being because I know that there's People around me and [00:07:00] they're like, they're, I mean, I was suffering about not knowing why, what happened.
But as soon as I knew what was, what I did wrong, it was just like, Oh my God. Uh, the door opened and everything kind of was more, uh, resonated with me how I'm going to go to the next step.
Cameron: Hmm. So for those, I'm familiar with the term, but for those, uh, who maybe are listening who are not familiar with the term conscious uncoupling, um, what does that mean for you and how do you understand it? And I guess really what was the journey for you? I. And in terms of understanding what conscious uncoupling
even is.
Track 1: Yes. So for me, it was mainly to understand who I am. I actually invite my own self back to me because in my relationship, I kind of put myself [00:08:00] aside and I cater to my partners. Whatever he wanted, whatever it's best for him and to just keep that relationship going. But then when I went to the conscious uncoupling, I realized that, uh, that's why it just didn't work out because I never actually verbalized what My needs are what I want in that relationship.
Um, so I went through that. That's what it means to understand who you are and what you want in a partnership. What's your ideal interaction with someone that you want to spend the rest of your life with, your life partner.
Cameron: Yeah, I know. We'll get into it probably more deeply because we'll talk about your work that you're doing now. Um, but you know, I think a lot of people, When breakups happen, it's like this disaster. And generally [00:09:00] it's actually a disaster for the ego, right? When the ego's attached
to a certain way of being, uh, you know, the status of a relationship, the comfortability of the money, or whatever it is, or the ease of The family stuff, there's so many things in relationships that we can attach to that when they come to an end, it can feel like this disastrous, um, well, a death essentially. And it is really a death to the ego. But if we understood, and I'm sure you'll have a lot more to say here than I will, but um, if we understood that our relationships are mirrors to us, any relationship, a friend, a lover, Uh, family members, obviously they're all mirrors to us. They're all in our lives to teach us certain things. And sometimes
our own journey, we level up or our frequency shifts high enough and we're on different timelines, and the relationships can come to an end because the lessons are learned, um, and they don't [00:10:00] need to stick around anymore. And it's usually then when we're holding on and attaching that, it becomes a real disaster. But I'm
Imagining your work in conscious uncoupling is helping people to understand
this realm.
Yeah.
Track 1: yes, yes. So, uh, for example, we always think that the other person has, uh, did something wrong. We never look at, he did this, she did this, I mean, it's in our head, it always kind of goes around and around and around. And we never think about, okay, what was my contribution to this relationship that did not work out?
What did I do? And I like, I work with my clients and, uh, slowly, slowly, they understand what was the 1%, 2 percent of their side of the equation. And when they really figure that out, it's just a light, big, huge light bulb. They understand. And it's not just in that relationship. [00:11:00] Usually, it happens in any other relationship that has happened with them, uh, throughout their life.
And it's mostly comes from your, uh, childhood, your other or other relationships that, uh, you went through in the, in the past.
Cameron: Yeah, so what I'm hearing is that you're helping people to take radical responsibility for their journeys,
um, you know, and you're talking a lot about this journey. As being one of self-discovery. Obviously on this podcast, we're talking about self-discovery and living our purpose all the time. Your work is, uh, not a hundred percent that, but it is very much about knowing oneself, right?
Because how else do you
call in a partner that is,
uh, a, an appropriate partner for you if you don't know
who
you are?
Track 1: exactly. I mean, through this work, I found myself and then the next step was find my purpose. So now my purpose is to help [00:12:00] people, my clients, whoever comes to my, uh, that kind of interacts with me and any of my clients that, so I can help them go step by step. and understand where they are and they really, uh, to bring love to themselves and others.
Uh, that's, uh,
Elle Ebizadeh: because we're here to be loved, to love and love others. That's it. I mean, it's just everything to me is about relationship and love.
That's all there is to it.
Cameron: Yeah, well I've, we've definitely talked about this on the show before, but we are souls in bodies, not the other way around. We don't have souls. We actually are the soul in the body.
Track 1: Souls in the body. Yes.
Cameron: love. Our essence is love. And so, um, when we cut ourselves off from our essence, from our truth, from our self, knowing we don't feel love, we cut ourselves off from love, but in, but our [00:13:00] whole. The our beingness is love. So to share love, express love, and be love in the world, well, that's who we fundamentally are. The whole trick about this game down here on planet Earth is we seem to forgot that
Track 1: Yes, yes, yes.
Cameron: so
Track 1: So...
Cameron: we're definitely, I'm gonna ask more about the relationship thing for sure. But I'm curious, this wasn't always the path for you. So what were you doing prior? What sort of entrepreneurial work? You were mentioned a few businesses, so what was that period of your
Track 1: Yes. So, uh, my undergraduate degree is in architecture. So I did, uh, did some remodeling jobs for my clients, uh, uh, drawing plans. And then eventually I would always wanted to have my own business. I started a cell phone distribution company. Um, for I think I had that for 10 years. Then I [00:14:00] sold that. Then I started.
I knew that it's gonna I always was passionate about recycling. So I when I saw that first company, the second one was recycling of electronics and California was the first. state who started that in 2004, so I guess I was one of the first ones that, uh, became a certified collector for the state of California for electronic waste.
So that's what I did. So I had, you know, a warehouse full of, TVs and computers and all this electronics that people didn't want anymore. And I had a contract with the cities in in L. A. area, and they did the collection for larger companies and the cities as well.
Cameron: Got it.
Track 1: And then I sold that company.
Cameron: and did you have another one or was that when the [00:15:00] relationship
piece came in?
Track 1: No, that was, uh, I sold it seven years ago. Actually, the company is still going. The, uh, the people who bought it from me, they're still, still California recycles. It's still going. Um, that was my last one. So then I became a coach, uh, conscious uncoupling and calling the one coach. And that's what I'm doing now.
Cameron: Beautiful. I almost feel like in some ways, that's like a 180, like
where
did that come from? My journey was also
Track 1: I know
Cameron: did this come from? But I feel like I wanna ask you a question. It could
feel a
little silly. .What do you think
about online dating? Because you're talking about electronics. That's to your past and relationships now. So what do you think of online dating? Is this
work
or does it not?
Track 1: Um, so I actually, I just recorded a short for my Instagram page about online dating. [00:16:00] Uh, it's. It does not work to a certain degree. I mean, maybe 10 years ago, a long time ago, it did, but now it's all about, uh, the interactions are not genuine and people who are under, uh, that's what I think, that they're not very kind of open to, to be like a, you know, genuinely partner up with the other person.
So, like Tinder or these other.
Cameron: Or the others. Yeah. Um, Because I am, I mean, I'll go here with you. I am in a place where I'm calling in my one. I know he exists. He's out there in the world. So I guess I'm curious, uh, that work, what does that look like for you? How do you support people? What are the types of things that maybe, um, people should know, about? Well, if the dating world's online, and I'll tell you, especially in the gay [00:17:00] community, it is real messy out there. But
anyway, ,um, I'm curious what sort of advice or if there's something you would want people to know about, uh, true connection in dating and calling in the one, what would that be?
Track 1: So, uh, I suggest I recommend my clients, uh, or whoever wants to call in the one to start by, first of all, explore and see what, what are they looking for, understand their own values and see what They need in a partner because sometimes you just say, Oh, I just want a partner. But really, really sit down and look at it.
Um, I have a worksheet that I give my clients and they have to answer those questions for themselves. Um, and then after doing that work and understanding exactly what you want. A partner and what values you have and you want what values you want [00:18:00] in your partner, so it will work out with for you. Then I suggest for them to participate in, uh, different activities that they like, like going hiking and there's like groups that they go hiking, hiking on a Sunday morning or I don't know, Saturday afternoon, whatever, if they're, they like to do something, uh, active.
Uh, that's the time. That's where they find that like minded people who have like those activities. So it's they have a better chance of meeting those people in those kind of areas.
Cameron: Hmm. Yep. So I guess I'm gonna keep walking through sacred sites all over Europe because Maybe he'll be praying in a corner somewhere. I dunno,
um,
Track 1: Actually, you know what I was, I was listening to, uh, do you know Regan Hillier? [00:19:00] She's
a entrepreneur and very, um, also master meditator and all. So she's, uh, I was listening to one of her, uh, podcasts on YouTube and the way that this is how she met her husband on Mindvalley retreat six years ago.
Cameron: Yeah.
Track 1: they had, you know, they had a similar path that they wanted to become more, uh, of, to understand who they are.
And they went to this retreat that Mindvalley has every year. And that's how they met. So, and that, that's what it is. It just, you have to find somebody who has the same similar, uh, things that they like to do.
Cameron: Yeah, I mean, I live, sleep, eat, breathe, spiritual discovery, self-discovery, consciousness, you know, conversations about other worlds, ets, [00:20:00] ,you know, multidimensional, all of these things. So he gotta keep up or ain't gonna
work.
Track 1: Yes, me too. I'm exactly like you. Delores Cannon is, I love her.
Cameron: Yes, I do too. Well, I think, I don't know if you know this, but I
practice Q H H T, which is her work
Track 1: I do. Oh my God. Yes. That's my, I was planning to find somebody in LA, maybe go in October.
Cameron: Guess who's gonna be in LA in October?
We can circle back after the show.
Track 1: Yes, yes, maybe I can be your client.
Cameron: Yeah, but we'll see about it. But, um, yeah, Dolores Cannon, I love all that. So I guess I wanna ask you the question too, um, in terms of your spiritual discovery, so you're, you've already mentioned Dolores. What sort of things have supported you in your spiritual journey? What sort of techniques or modalities or what sort of things have been important for you?
I mean, you've studied a lot on [00:21:00] Mindvalley, so maybe those are a few of those things, but. What have been
really important
steps for you?
Track 1: mean, a few years ago, I mean, I was really into Dr. Joe Dispenza. So I took all of his classes, listened to him daily. Dane, uh, Wayne Dyer. I mean, there are all these spiritual teachers that are online. Um, who else? Anybody that you, they're popular. I have listened to, I took classes and that, that's how I became familiar.
And then we went step by step. Sometimes I go back, like I still do, uh, Wayne's meditation every morning. I used to do Joe Dispenza. Now I do his, uh, Vishon. Uh, he's the main person in Mindvalley. I do his meditation. So just, uh, different ones.
Cameron: Great. Um, did you ever [00:22:00] come across the work
of
Eckhart Tole?
Track 1: Yes, that
him too. Yeah, I love, I love his work. Yes.
Cameron: same. When I read The
Power of Now, that changed so much for me. It's such an interesting work though, because I. If you're ready for it, boom. It like opens things up
and I know I've had some people, if they're not ready for it, they're like, what I dunno what he's saying.
Track 1: A few months ago, last year, I started reading Map of Consciousness. I don't know if you're familiar with that. I don't have the book here. It's on the other side. I mean, it's amazing. He shows you the map of where you are as far as like, if you're in love, I mean, in that map, if your love is where you are, then you're up higher, then your anger and these other feelings are on the bottom.
Then as you read it, you [00:23:00] became, I said to myself, Oh my God. And I do suggest that, uh, For my clients to read it too, because a lot of anger is with the, when you consciously want to consciously uncouple. So when they read that, they, they can see where they are in on that map.
Uh, and then a lot of them want to come up to the love section.
So it just, um, some work.
Cameron: Yeah. Well, and I, I do love the map of consciousness 'cause it really brings into awareness in a practical way. I think that we are vibrational beings, we are energetic beings. I. And if we're carrying anger and frustration and hatred or whatever these vibrations, these experiences energetically in our body, our vibration
is impacted by that. And you know, if we wanna call in a conscious relationship, generally people are wanna do that from love. [00:24:00] But if you've got things in the way, fear, anger, all of these things hurt, guilt,
shame, never. Um,
that's all in the way, right.
Track 1: I had a young lady. I was coaching a young lady in her twenties. For calling in the one and one of the main things that we talked about, I said, okay, so when you, I, I asked her a question. So when you go buy groceries, do you, uh, when somebody passes by you, do you look at them or you just, or do you say hello or you just Ignore them and you just leave and you just do your own thing.
And then she said, Oh, I never thought of it. I, I don't, I don't look at anybody. I just go buy stuff. And I said, I invite you to open yourself up just to just smile just this way. Your body, the energy that you just talked about, your energy would be more inviting and that you're even, you can find your love of your life.
Then [00:25:00] you go buy. Milk in the morning. It, you have to be open energetically to invite that person to your life. And she was like, oh my god. I said the next time I said, what did you do? Did you practice this? And she said yes, and it was like hard for me to really look at people's eyes and smile and say hello, but I said just slowly, slowly just do it one time and then the next time do it twice or just smile and Start with that and it will be, then you will be consciously opening yourself up to invite people to your life.
Cameron: It's interesting you say this. I was just at the grocery store at the supermarket across the street a few minutes ago, but I wasn't all that open because I was trying to figure out what these things were saying in Greek because I don't read Greek. So I was a little preoccupied and even when I got to the register I was like, uhoh, [00:26:00] Anyway, but good point. Stay open in public or wherever you are. Um, 'cause you never really know when somebody comes in. So I'm curious on your journey, um, of really it's been a self-discovery. First, knowing yourself and your own. Patterns and things like that. And now you're able to show and support people. But on your journey, um, can you describe what it feels like to be really, truly connected, either connected with your higher self, or your soul, or spirit source, whatever you want to call it. Um, can you share what that feels like for you when you know that you're in alignment?
Track 1: For me, it's when I'm walking down the street or going, you know, wherever I am. I can, as soon as I become conscious, I can smile. And I would say, okay, [00:27:00] I'm here and I'm going toward my purpose and my passion. Just knowing, bringing that up in my consciously, it just gives me that, I smile automatically. And that's where I think that, uh, my higher self is connected.
I mean, or I'm connected to my higher self because then I say, okay, what's the next step? And that's how I get guidance. Uh, I wake up every morning, uh, and I, uh, I journal in the morning before I do my meditation. And then I, uh, I would always think about my meditation is always about my day. And each appointment, each meeting, each client that I'm seeing.
So I would kind of think about how it's gonna, that that meeting will go,
Cameron: Hmm.
Track 1: uh, not step by [00:28:00] step, but as a, in a positive way. So I'm kind of, I would be, I love to be
of I go by my daily to be of service. And, um. I guess that's connection to my higher self because I feel that I'm here for a purpose and a reason and one of the, one of them is to be of service of these clients that I see because some of them have broken hearts.
Cameron: Yeah. And when We have a broken heart when we're experiencing that, right? It is an experience of disconnection from our truth. We spoke at the beginning of this episode
that our truth is love, our essence is love. And so when we
cut ourselves off from that, it feels terrible and sometimes I share this [00:29:00] with some of my clients too. Not generally in the space of relationship, but relationship with self. Right? It's like, uh, if you're stressed about this or you're fearful of that, or this area of life isn't working, whatever, it's like you have a hose, right? And there's so many kinks in it, because you keep
choking yourself off from the love, from the essence that you are And so the work is not so much about. You know, blasting the hose with more water, that's not gonna work. Right?
it's, it's, it's actually about releasing, letting go, unwinding, or, you know, in your case, uncoupling, right? This sort of take a step back, remove the pieces that aren't really serving you right?
Because when we do that, we discover our true
essence
was there all along.
Track 1: yes. And it's the journey. And I've had a client that was very hurt and he, [00:30:00] I gave him this exercise. I said, you know, the best way every morning when you wake up and you look at yourself in the mirror, just tell yourself that I love you and see how it makes you feel. He came back, he said, you know, I can't do it.
He would, you know, it was very emotional. He couldn't do it. And I said, it's okay. Just two seconds. Start by, um, and then see what happens the next day. So after, I think we had around 10 sessions together. And after that, the last session he was really comfortable because he continued. And it's all about knowing who you are.
And just looking in the mirror in your eyes and telling yourself that I love you, just taking care of yourself, opening yourself up to loving yourself. And then that's how you can open yourself up to bring your partner to your[00:31:00]
Cameron: Yeah. Because ultimately, right, you are attracting always that which you are vibrating. So
to bring that back, right, if you're vibrating fear, If you're vibrating, scarcity. If you're vibrating, I'm never gonna find someone. Well like, hello. That's the experience you're gonna attract if you are vibrating in victim hood mentality. Well, it's possible you may attract a partner who could abuse you. Um, right, because
that's, that's what we're, we're, doing. Um, yeah. So it's really. A big deal. You know, when we talk about mirror work, I also give this to some clients too, depending on, you know, whatever they're working with. Mirror work can be very confronting, and by the way, if anyone is listening and is having, you know, know that self-worth issues are, or self-love issues or something that you're working with, I highly recommend mirror work.
And for a lot of people[00:32:00]
it's really confronting because you will be presented with. You you wanna talk about people not looking at other people's eyeballs when you're in public. Well, we almost never look at our own. And when you do, the eyes are the windows to the soul. And so you're gonna
see you , you
Track 1: exactly. Exactly. So the first step is to actually know that loving yourself and all those fear or. Whatever it's inside, other than the love for yourself, has to go put it aside and just concentrate on that. And that's how you bring in that, uh, the love of your life.
Cameron: Yeah. You know, we talk about self-love. Well, you and I are mentioning it here. I think self-love is. A concept that gets thrown around in society that I think is misunderstood in many ways. So I'm curious to see what you you wanna [00:33:00] say about this, but. I feel like people talk about self love and they sort of equate it with self care. I mean, yeah, getting a massage and maybe eating a really nice meal and those sorts of things, like, that's good. I mean, you should be taking care of your physical
form ,and it, you know, it's
an expression of, of your being is to honor yourself, but. That's not necessarily an act. It could be, but it is not necessarily an act of self-love.
That's not enough, right? To put on makeup or get dressed really nice or go out to dinner or something. Yes, this might be a, an act of caring for oneself, but that is not exactly self-love, right? Self-love is about In my opinion, understanding all of the aspects of self, the shadow, the darkness, the pieces we don't wanna look at, and still accepting that.
But I'm curious what you think self-love really is and the work of [00:34:00] self-love
really is.
Track 1: Yeah, so I think the first key is to really understand your feelings. And, uh, befriend them. A lot of times when we get angry, we just kind of wanted to ignore it. And then don't want to really sit down and feel it. But if I invite my clients to just, if they're angry, if they're upset, if they're sad, whatever feeling they have to befriend them.
To sit for a few minutes and put your hand on your heart and really say, okay, Elle, are you angry? What, what, why are you angry? Is there something that I can, that you need? I mean, there's an exercise that I do with my clients about that. And that would be the first step to understand your feelings and then befriend them.
And then it will, after, that means that you, As a person, you make [00:35:00] sure that your feelings are seen and heard.
Cameron: Yeah.
Track 1: that's the key, that when you do that for yourself, then the boundaries that you put with other people that they're your relationship with, then they would also follow what you have gave yourself.
I don't know if I explained it correctly or not, but it's...
Cameron: Yeah, we need to validate ourselves for the experiences we're having within us because it does matter. You hear that y'all, you gotta be friends with your, uh, emotions.
I talk about feeling your emotions all the time. Sometimes the emotions might feel like more like a frenemy than an actual friend, but they are.
Um,
Track 1: Yes. I mean, they are. And
it's, I had clients who just, uh, call me or text me or call me and they say, you know what, we need a session just, just to explore the emotions. It's, it's okay if they can, if you have like a best friend or if [00:36:00] it's somebody that you trust and you can have that conversation and they can ask you, okay, how do you feel?
And it's just 10, 15 minutes of interaction. Yeah. Uh, with somebody that you trust or that will help you. And then eventually you can do it on your own with yourself. That's what I teach my clients of how to do it.
Cameron: Yeah. And kind of back to the piece, this is such an important piece in relationships 'cause it's usually people's emotions, honestly, that probably create a lot of turmoil in relationships, but, It's one thing if you don't understand your own, it's another. If you don't understand your partner, and if you've got two people not understanding, well then hello.
You're gonna create a whole bunch of catalysts for some stuff.
But the thing is our emotions, we are energetic beings. We're constantly experiencing energy and that's just what we do. And if we don't allow energy to move through us emotions, energy in motion. Then they get [00:37:00] stuck and they create issues. And how do we allow emotions through us? What's what you're saying? We validate them. Every emotion you are ever experiencing is valid period.
Now. It maybe the situation that you're feeling, the emotion, it doesn't seem warranted, probably because you haven't felt it in the past, and something's triggering you right now.
Maybe it feels inappropriate, but I. In that moment, but they're always, always valid. And most of our world is constantly invalidating emotions. So don't think that, don't do that. Don't feel this. And that's, I mean, it's a dishonoring of who you are as a being. If you just validated your emotions as they were coming through. I'm experiencing fear, I'm experiencing anxiety, whatever it is. That they're okay and allow yourself to process it and you know, just
be with it. [00:38:00] Then you wouldn't be trapped by your emotions as a prisoner inside of yourself. Right. And I imagine relationships are also be a lot more, um,
harmonious that way,
Track 1: Yes. Yes. Because when you're in an interaction with another person and you're angry, um, instead of like telling them all this stuff that has happened in 10 years ago or five years ago or two years, whatever, and you haven't resolved those, um, you can just basically say, you know what, right now, I feel angry and I don't want to have this conversation when I'm in that space.
Let me kind of reflect. Let me, some people go for a walk, some people write down on their notepad, whatever makes you kind of reflect on what has happened. I don't want to bring the past incident here in this. occasion that we're having this conversation. And then you go reflect and [00:39:00] come back and say, okay, this is what happened.
This is where I am. This, this is how I feel. And then you'll be able to actually communicate. Uh, from your heart genuinely and, uh, ask or invite the other person to just listen to you for a few minutes without even, uh, answering you back and just, you know, give me some few minutes. Let me just go through what I, after I reflect what I came up with and then I can listen to you after
Cameron: What do you think is the biggest barrier to living your purpose or for someone to be living their purpose? What do you think is the biggest
barrier?
Track 1: I think it's, it's fear,
the fear of the past experiences. I had that once in a while it comes out, uh, but as long as they, you know, or I or anybody else that fear comes up [00:40:00] and you say, you know what, yes, this happened. It brings back those memories from the past, but I'm today, I'm, I don't know, 30 years old, whatever.
I'm, I passed that, those, uh, behind me and I'm a. professional, successful, young, and very enthusiastic about to go to the next step. So I'm not that person that I was. Even six months ago or a year ago, so that fear again, you can befriend that fear and say, okay, I understand, but it's okay. Let's go to the next step.
Cameron: Hmm. And back to the cutting yourself off. 'cause what is the opposite of fear
Love.
Track 1: Love.
Exactly.
Cameron: fear is, fear is what keeps us most potently away from the experience of love. Right? 'cause it is the opposite vibration. Well, I know you're living your [00:41:00] purpose 'cause you've said it a couple times. So the question of do you think you've discovered your purpose? I think, I think you are living that um, but I wanna ask you, what do you think it means to live with purpose?
Track 1: Uh, for me, I get up every morning. Uh, with my purpose and passion, and as soon as I say that, when I open my eyes, then it just, the energy that we talked about just kind of gets aligned with what I have to do that day. So that's my way of putting myself consciously in that space of living my purpose and passion.
Cameron: Beautiful. So it's really about being present, being with whatever life presents to you.
Well, what a beautiful conversation. Thank you Elle so much for being here with me,
today. I very much enjoyed our conversation. I know my listeners will too. If you'd like to connect with [00:42:00] Elle, you can check out the links, in the show notes. And thank you very much for
being
with me today,
Track 1: Thank you, Cameron.
I'm grateful to share this episode and time with you, my listeners. And I want you to know that our time together does not have to end here. I've also created an online community where spiritually awakening people can receive my support and guidance and connect with others as they discover their own unique paths to living their soul's purpose.
Look for the link in the show notes to learn more about the path and purpose, community support, connection, and inspiration for your journey. It's all inside.
A special thanks to this week's guest for sharing their journey with us. And I want to thank you for listening to today's episode. My name is Dr. Cameron Martin, and it has been my honor to serve you on your journey of self-discovery. See you next time.
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