Episode 023: Intuition and Our Inner Guidance System
With Savannah Nicholson
Everyone is born with an innate spiritual guidance system--our intuition. And tapping into our intuition is key to living in alignment with our Higher Self.
On this episode I speak with Business Owner, Designer, and Podcast Co-Host Savannah Nicholson about how to develop your intuition to live your purpose. We also cover many other topics including the role of place in your spiritual journey, death, and even grocery stores. Turns out, grocery stores are pretty spiritual places!
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Episode Transcript:
Savannah Nicholson: Once you start trusting your own intuition, you understand that everyone has their inner guidance system and everyone is making decisions based on what is true and correct for them.
Cameron: welcome to the Path and Purpose Podcast, where your journey of self-discovery meets with a collective awakening of humanity. I'm your host, Dr. Cameron Martin. In this exciting time of expansion and growth, we are witnessing a profound shift in consciousness. As spiritually awakening individuals, we are called to embrace our inner wisdom intuition and the deeper knowing that we're meant for more.
As an eternal student of the universe and a spiritual leader, I have dedicated my life to supporting your journey of transformation. Through this podcast, we embark on a shared exploration where you can find inspiration, insights, and guidance from the stories of others who are walking similar paths, to see your truth reflected in [00:01:00] their experiences, and to ignite the confidence to believe in the bigger purpose that awaits you.
This podcast is here to provide inspiration, insights, and guidance so that the path to living your soul's purpose becomes less of a mystery and more of a discovery.
Join me for this episode of the podcast where we will explore the many paths to living our soul's purpose.
Cameron: On this episode, I'm here with my good friend, Savannah Nicholson. I'm super excited to share this space, um, with her today because I've been on her podcast many times. So we're flipping the switch here. Um, Savannah is the owner and designer of Anahata Re Jewelry and the co-host of the Authentic Souls Podcast. Her intention with jewelry is to make her customers feel more beautiful, confident, and aligned with their highest self through thought provoking conversations. On her podcast, she hopes to inspire others to [00:02:00] follow their intuition, embrace their true authenticity, and create a life of their dreams. And certainly she does. So
welcome, Savannah.
Track 1: Hi Cameron.
Thank you for having me.
Cameron: You're welcome. I'm so excited to have this conversation with you. Um, for those who some of you are listening, might have seen episodes of me. Um. With Savannah, I'm the Authentic Souls Podcast where we usually are talking about astrology and some other things, but I don't really actually know your sort of spiritual journey, spiritual story too much except for pit,
pit, tid, bits you have shared in other places. But we're gonna have
that
conversation today,
Track 1: Amazing. Yeah.
I'm ready to dive
in.
Cameron: Cool. So start with this. What marked the beginning of your spiritual journey or your awakening?
Track 1: I was thinking about this when you sent over, you know that question. I was like trying to really look back on my life. I mean, as a child, I remember [00:03:00] always being observant. That was like one word that my family always used to describe me as I would walk into any situation and observe before I acted. And I think that's like.
Whether I was conscious of it or not, it was me being very aware of my existence around me. And so I wasn't consciously acting as like a spiritual being then, but I think it was, you know, showing signs at a very early age. Uh, and then when I graduated high school, um, I had the opportunity to either go to college or to volunteer at an outdoor school.
And this was located in Nevada City, California. I always grew up going to summer camps and it was located really close to where I would go to summer camp. And I went up and volunteered for a week with a elementary school as a counselor. And they offered me a position as a student naturalist. And basically I worked up there and got to teach outdoor school classes.
So [00:04:00] classes all about birds and ecology and gardening and just be literally in the woods. All day, every day with a bunch of sixth graders. And I love kids. I've all, I grew up being a nanny. I'm very like maternal. when I was gonna go to school, I was like, oh, I wanna be a teacher. So that was my first kind of fork in the road where I really had to sit with, am I gonna do what everyone's telling me to do or am I gonna listen to my gut?
And I didn't really have the words for it yet. It was just this like very clear situation at a young age where it's like, or you could do this thing. That's sounds really exciting. It was presented to you. You didn't have to go after it. Someone saw you and offered it to you. Luckily, my parents are amazing and very supportive, but that doesn't mean that I didn't have people in my life who were observing what I was doing and felt the need to speak up about it and thought I was making the wrong decision.
But I just, I look back at that time and I'm so glad I decided to do that. [00:05:00] and go down that road as far as like working outside and being with kids and being in nature 24 7 because it opened my world up to another level of just autonomy and freedom and like, we didn't have service. So, you know, us millennials being raised on the internet, basically like to not have service for a year and to just be with like hundreds of kids at a time and have my own community up there where we all lived together and ate together and taught together.
And you go to bed at like nine because you don't have anything else to do. So like I was living such a, I don't know, just really healthy holistic life for an 18, 19-year-old. Um, but that was like the pivotal experience that really led me down this road of exploring what it means to listen to your intuition in all aspects of your life.
And I would say that is like the. The catalyst of my spirituality, because once I did that, I couldn't go back. It's like I made this one [00:06:00] big decision in my life to listen to my gut and to listen to what's true for me. Now, it doesn't mean I'm not just gonna go back on what my original path was, which was to go to school.
So from there and was to go to school in, uh, San Francisco and be like a fashion major, which was like completely opposite. Um, but also, it's funny because now being a jewelry designer, it kind of has gone full circle and all aspects of myself have like, have met again and it all makes sense. So yeah, I'd say that was like the beginning.
And then I moved to San Luis Obispo and I went there just because it was beautiful. And again, I just based it off of feeling. I, I've always been a very much like of a feeling person, very sensitive growing up. That was another word that people would describe me with. Sometimes in positive ways, sometimes in negative ways, like just feeling so much all the time.
And so I. That's just what I made my decisions off of a lot of the time was just how does this make me feel? And what I wasn't doing it consciously. It was just like, okay, I'm gonna [00:07:00] have to go to a community college to, until I can transfer into university. So like I'm just gonna pick what feels the best for me.
So I picked St. Louis Obispo and if you've been there, you know how beautiful and amazing it is. And that place is such a catalyst for so many amazing things that have happened to me in my life. So I really, uh, I don't know if I meant to go back at any point, but I've spent so many years there growing up and just like that place raised me, it was such a great environment for me to hone in on my spiritual practices, to have a spiritual community.
I worked at a vegan cafe for a year, and the people in that space were also just like, I made some of my best friends there. And yeah, so I'd say that was like the beginning stages of my life and my spiritual. I don't know, journey , it's now become a career, which is so interesting. Um, but from there in San Luis Obispo, I met my current partner and I met Danielle [00:08:00] Churchill, which is my co-host on the Authentic Souls Podcast.
So if I didn't listen to my intuition all those years ago, I wouldn't be where I am today.
Cameron: I do wanna talk about the significance of place San Luis Obispo so what do you think it was about that place, or what have you learned about Place in the world, maybe now that you have lived in other places, um, what were some of the biggest lessons maybe
for you there?
Track 1: Hmm. I've thought about it so many times and I, you know, I moved there originally, I moved away and then I ended up moving back just because I was like, for me to grow into the person I need to be, I need to be in like the most optimal setting and this place geographically.
I don't know, like I've looked at my chart on top, like my, um, what's it called?
Your
Cameron: Astrocartography, you made a
beautiful segue into what I
wanted
Track 1: Okay.
Cameron: so
Track 1: I've looked at it [00:09:00] and I don't have any like serious, like, oh my gosh, lines there where it makes total sense. But I have heard, and I've, I've spoken to many people. and I have books about it, that Lumeria was right off the coast of San Luis Obispo and or an aspect of Lumeria.
And so whether that's true or not, or it, it feels so right to me. And I started making jewelry with, specifically with crystals. Like that's what got me into jewelry making was to make wearable crystals. 'cause I have, so I just find so much comfort in them and so much beauty and exactly I'm holding amethyst right now.
Like I love them. Um, and so, yeah, just something about the location, I mean, Oprah's named it like the happiest city in the world, which, who knows if that's true or not, but it's just the perfect size environment, at least for myself, was the perfect size environment when I was in my twenties. To have a solid community, um, [00:10:00] to the downtown is just so
Picturesque. Like you feel like you're in a movie every single day because there's cafes and it's like, I don't, I just can't explain it. If you've been there, you know it's also described as like a bubble. And so you feel like you're in this happiness bubble, but if you're there for too long, you're gonna be like, I have to leave this place because it's almost like too perfect and it's not a part of the act.
It's not a good representation of like the actual collective. But if you need a reprieve and if you need somewhere to like relax or to just thrive, I say go to San Luis Obispo for a little bit because it's a beautiful
place.
Cameron: I don't know who is on their like town marketing, but they should definitely be pitching you You could be doing some work for them anyway. Um, thank you for sharing that because place, this is something I haven't talked about on any of my other episodes actually. I Important place can play or the role that plays [00:11:00] can play in our spiritual journey because where we are born. This is specific frequency. We chose that place coming into this life because it was going to provide us whatever it is we wanted as far as a blueprint for our life, right? So where we are born matters, but where we live also matters. And where our energy as an individual being lands on planet earth, we have different experiences. And you were referring to, uh, a practice in astrology known as astrocartography, which is something I do practice with clients, which is essentially the practice of understanding one's energy on the earth. And so you can see in different areas of the planet, which other energies are impacting you the strongest.
So for example, when I left Massachusetts where I grew up and lived for 20. Four years of my life, um, and went to San Diego. That was a very significant move, interestingly, and [00:12:00] similarly to what you said. I felt it. I liked it. This was the right place. I thought it was beautiful. It was great. I wanted to be there. Then I applied into the PhD program and USD got in and it was like, oh yeah, you're moving to San Diego. Well, my experience in San Diego was super pivotal for my life. I mean, I was experiencing all kinds of falling away energy. The energy of Saturn actually is the strongest for me in San Diego, and that's an energy of restriction, constriction, foundation building, getting rid of anything that isn't you.
And there was a tremendous purging of an old me in California. As well as the beginning of building a new me. But similarly to what you said about San Luis Obispo, at some point, living under Saturn's rule is really intense. Everything is always intense and building and breaking down and working really hard. So I knew I can't be here forever. It's, it's basically too tough to be here. And then I came and moved to Maui, [00:13:00] which is, I would argue is probably a similar experience that you had in San Luis Obispo. Beautiful place, amazing, magical, wonderful retreat place that is absolutely a bubble in the middle of nowhere. 'cause we're literally in the middle of the Pacific Ocean here, Pacific. And we're still separated by the other Hawaiian islands. So it is very much its own energetic place. Um. Which at some point in my journey was very significant. But you get to a point where that's no longer appropriate for your spiritual journey.
And I'm in that moment right now and you know this, but I'm sharing with my listeners who don't. I am moving to Los Angeles by the time you're listening to this episode, I may actually be there already 'cause it's happening in just a few weeks. Um, and this is a very different energy of course, but what I'm calling it is expansion in many ways, teaching more, speaking more, writing more, connecting more.
And this is all a different part of my journey. But to wrap that all back place is so significant when we're trying to do certain things [00:14:00] on our journey or learn certain lessons because the frequency of places can activate things within us that we can't experience elsewhere.
Track 1: Hmm, you, you mentioned, I mean, just talking about place that really sparked something within me that I wanna share. Uh, so I grew up in Roseville, California, and if you've been there, I. We're known for our mega mall. It's, you know, fairly conservative . It's an, uh, it's a suburb outside of Sacramento and I loved my childhood.
I had a great childhood. Again, it's just like the suburbs and anything that you could ever want is at your fingertips. Um, like I mentioned, fairly conservative, but a great place to grow up. But once I became an adult, I was like, very clear. It was very clear that I don't, the place doesn't serve me anymore and I no longer wanna be there.
And so I just kind of, I don't know, it was, I didn't have like a negative energy towards it. I was just kind of neutral to it. And I wasn't necessarily like, [00:15:00] stoked every time I went back because my family still lives there. And, uh, I still definitely held gratitude for the space. But two weeks after my grandmother died, I went grocery shopping for my mom 'cause she was still grieving and, you know, in distress as one would be when their mom passes away.
And I had a woman stop me. Um. The Trader Joe's parking lot. And she goes, I have been screaming at you. You like, 'cause I kind of had to park kind of far away. 'cause if you've been to a Trader Joe's parking lot, you know, it's just insanity. So she, she's like, I saw you in my car. And Spirit was telling me, get out and talk to her.
You have a message. You have a message. And she's like, I literally tried to ignore it and it was blaring at me so loud that I had to get out and talk to you. And I'm sitting there like, okay, bring it on lady. Like, I'm all for it. I'm, I love this stuff. And she's like, and that's what they were telling me, like, you will be receptive to this.
And I was like, okay. And the crazy thing is, I had headphones in and was talking to one of my friends, [00:16:00] like on the phone. And so I just took a headphone out, but she was still on the phone. So my friend listened to this entire call, um, on, on the phone. She heard this whole conversation and this woman's like, you know, this is your grandmother.
You, she's here to tell you. Like, she sees ev, she sees every part of you. You're doing exactly what you need to be doing. And the main thing that they noted was like, . , you were meant to be raised here. You were meant to grow up here. You know, this place is called Roseville Roses are the highest vibrating flower.
Like, um, this place is, this place is so sacred to you and you really need to, I don't have gratitude for it. And have gratitude for that, that time of your life. And just really understand that you were meant to be here. Like, yes, you're meant to be other places now, but this is where you were raised was exactly where you needed to be to become the person you are today because you needed safety.
You needed safety to become who you are and to hone into your sensitivities and not be fearful of your environment. Because that's the one great thing about the suburbs [00:17:00] is yes, it can feel a little stale in like Stepford YV sometimes, but it's so safe. It's so safe. And I had so much community around me and so many friends and so many, um, like positive adult figures in my life.
And so that was such a. Perspective shifting moment where I was like, oh, I can really look back on my childhood because now I look back at that place and I can hold so much love and so much space for what that place has given me. And I can, you know, in my past, maybe not now, um, but for anyone who, who kind of maybe looks back on their childhood and where they grew up and they're like, why did I grow up there?
Like, I don't fit in there because I wouldn't say I fit into that place now at all. But if you can find, I don't know, something to be grateful for in that space and to make it make sense, it shifted my entire perspective on that location.
Cameron: Hmm. I think it's a super powerful spiritual lesson too, first knowing that you are always exactly where you need to be [00:18:00] for whatever parts of your journey. I've had a very similar this is kind of creepy what you just said. So I've had a similar relationship to where I grew up and I've left. I lived in California, I lived in Hawaii. And I was like, I don't really want to be in Western Massachusetts. It doesn't feel like my vibe, whatever. But if I really truly sit there, here right now, I know I have gratitude for very specific lessons that I learned that I probably would not have had elsewhere. And so talk about a powerful practice for anyone, all of the listeners here, um, to think about where you have lived, where you grew up, maybe it's the same exact place, whatever. And practicing a bit of gratitude for what that place has shown you. You know, and you and I have spoken about travel quite a bit and I've mentioned this on a few other episodes that I was traveling this summer to like five different countries and every single one activated me in a different way. And you know, my favorite was Greece for sure. Super high on my list. [00:19:00] like number one, probably Greece, but particularly Crete. And my time in Crete was amazing. My time in Athens was amazing. I. Uh, Santorini was beautiful too. I loved pretty much everything about Greece, every moment of my existence there. Um, and yet those were really specific experiences, even living in Hawaii. I'm grateful for my experiences here on Maui, but it's like, nah, I gotta get back to California. There are things there that I am missing or that I need in my life and my experience and my spiritual journey. Also wanted to say, talk about grocery store parking lots. So coming back to Western Mass here, for any of you listening in Western Mass or familiar with Western Massachusetts, I used to work at Big y, um, which is a grocery chain. I lived, I worked there for seven years. Still my longest employer actually. I love that job. But one day, um, when I was working the front end, I was a head cashier for many years, so I was supervising a front end. It was like a busy Sunday, whatever. This woman came up to me and I knew that she was a psychic and I knew that she was a medium, [00:20:00] and it was like one of my last shifts in this store location before I was going to another one, I think. And, uh, she came up to me and she started doing a reading for me. She said, your grandfather's here and he wants to talk to you, And he pretty much in a really similar way. I don't remember the conversation exactly, but he came through, he spoke about it. He was proud of the way I handled certain things, how things were going. And yeah, like gave some wisdom about my journey to come. So that's like so wild. Our grandparents coming through in the grocery stores,
Track 1: I know, right? It's so funny 'cause it's like my grandma always, she's my . I wanna talk about where I am now too. 'cause it just ties in to everything as well. Uh, she's my adopted grandmother, so she, Ruth just, I don't wanna say it's like she, she, she made sure, I never felt different than any of the other grandkids because my mom was the [00:21:00] only adopted daughter.
I didn't realize she was adopted until I was old enough to like understand that. Um, I still to this day feel exactly the same as all of the other grandkids. And there's a lot of us and we're all completely different. And she, she knew how to speak to us and to like, not handle us, but know, not pa not parent, but just be a grandma to us in the exact ways that we all needed.
And my sensitivities, she was always really good with. Um, and so in that moment, you know, the woman was saying like, she gets it. She sees it all now you're right on track. Like it was such confirmation. And I told her that when she was dying, I was like, I. Woman, like when you're on the other side, I need you to show up for me.
I need you to confirm that everything I am feeling is correct. And so two weeks later, there it was and I was like, Ugh, what is life? What is life? What is going on? And she's like, yes, you're right. I'm here. You got it. Keep going. And I'm like, okay, here I go. And so now I'm in Santa Cruz, California, which [00:22:00] is where she lived.
I think at least for myself, it was definitely necessary to kind of wrap up this chapter of me, which would've been the last 10 years of like in my twenties, of really experiencing and getting clear on what my belief systems are.
How do I handle trauma, how do I hand, which is just life. Like, we all have trauma, we all go through shit, and that is life. So if you can just become, just be at peace with that, people are gonna die. Bad shit's gonna happen. And the real lesson is, no, seriously, the real lesson is like, how can you, how can you move through that moment with as much grace as possible?
Because as much, you know, like when my grandma died, I remember challenging myself so much. Like because, because I was able to have open dialogues with her about non-physical and her moving on and there not being fear around it and redefining what death
is that, that, that death was [00:23:00] like the easiest one for me to go through.
And. She was my last one out of the six people. She was my last one. So it's like, it was all these initiations almost into like the first one was the worst. And it, I don't wanna say it got easier and it doesn't mean that I'm minimizing their life or their existence. Um, if anything, I've learned to carry on celebrating them now.
Like I don't forget about them. And it feels so much better being able to celebrate them and not be in victim hood around their death. Uh, because I know that's what they would want. And when you do have this relationship with non-physical, you can literally talk to them whenever you want. You can tap into their energy.
You can understand what they would do in a situation. I think that's also one of the biggest skills when it comes to working through a death or working through grieving is. When you grieve someone so hard and when you're so sad, it's because an aspect of [00:24:00] an energy that you are used to is gone. And so for myself at least, it's like, what about this person that I love so much and that I am so sad about them being gone?
And for my, for me at least, it was a lesson. And how can I implement that energy into my life now? How can I be that for everyone else and myself? And it's not easy, trust me, , but it just, it just is. It's just life.
Cameron: Well, yeah. The other side of life is death. And I'm going to go here. You always set me up even on your own podcast. You set me up for these things. Um, The understanding of death. The experience of death. I mean, I, so my, in my birth chart, my natal son is in the eighth house of death and dying. Um, and rebirth. Death, rebirth, death and birth are two sides of the exact same coin. When you are leaving the non-physical to come into a human body, inside of the womb, you're dying for one form to become [00:25:00] another. When you are born coming out of the womb, you are dying from. The experience of being a fetus or a baby inside the womb, into now a world that's super shocking. I mean, usually doctors are there smacking you and the lights are harsh and you're not in your warm sack anymore, right? Um, and then we live through life and we go through periods of death and rebirth. Every change is a death of an old self into a new, we've talked about moving to different places. These are examples of that.
And then at the end of physical life, we can die. We do die from the physical form, but we return to the non-physical where we started to begin with. And yet, in Western society in particular, we focus so much on the death as loss as I am now losing something that I cannot access. When in actuality when a person dies, their soul energy cannot be created or destroyed in the universe for all of these science people out [00:26:00] there.
This is like a literal law So. Where does it go? It doesn't just disappear. Yes, parts of the body go back into the earth or are burned up or whatever people do with, you know, dead bodies. Um, but the soul, the energetics of the person, the spirit goes back or is all present returns to whatever its original form is. And so in that, there is a birth, there is a, going back to actually wholeness actually. And it's, if we saw death and dying as actually a birthing 'cause that is what's happening on the other side. Um, then there's only, it's only to be celebrated. But even the theme of death in an, in an even more minuscule way we can say it is the spiritual work. You talked about how we relate. Look, life down here is whatever things happen, it can be shitty, whatever. Our spiritual work. I was just [00:27:00] having a conversation with my mother a few minutes ago on the phone and I know she's listening to this episode now.
So here it is,
Track 1: Hi, mom.
Cameron: out.
Hi, Um, she was talking about how the other day she got a flat tire and she got into an old. Pattern of freaking out anxiety. I don't know what I'm doing. How am I gonna do this? And then she remembered, she felt it in her body and realized, oh my God, I don't, I haven't felt this way in like a year. She's been doing her spiritual work and then she realized, oh nevermind. I'm just gonna surrender.
This is like no big deal. It's just a flat tire. She called, you know, my father and they figured whatever out, but it wasn't a big deal. And I reminded her in that moment. That is the spiritual work. You know, it's one thing to go to a meditation or a yoga class and feel blissed out, balance your chakras, all this stuff, but it's when life shows you a catalyst as small as a flat tire or a relationship breaking up or maybe as large for you as somebody dying, [00:28:00] somebody that you love that is not physically present anymore. All of these things are catalysts for us to exercise, essentially our spiritual. Knowledge attainment practice, right? To realize, oh, I can regulate my nervous system with the tire, right? Or, oh, I understand the bigger truth about death and dying and I feel sad and my nervous system feels this way and I have these emotions, but I have the tools to actually enact, if you will, my spiritual practice.
So I kind of leading to another question here, which is, and you shared many, I mean, I've heard about nature, obviously, your experiences with death and dying, but what are the tools along the way that have been so important to you on your
spiritual journey?
Track 1: Yeah. Also, I wanna note real quick, there was a lot of tears. There was a lot of tears when it came to all the death and dying. Does. I don't wanna be like, I was like, Yippy, Skippy. Grandma's on the other side. [00:29:00] Like, good for you girl. But also like, two sides of things. You know? Like I can be sad for myself, but really realizing like.
Celebrate her in her next iteration of self, whatever that means. But I can also hold space for myself. Um, I just don't wanna diminish anyone's experience if they are experiencing great sadness, because that's also just a part of grieving. And let it out. Please let it out. Um, so what was your question?
What other like
modalities do I
Cameron: Tools. Well, yeah, either. What other tools and or experiences have been really important on your journey?
Track 1: Yeah, I think just observation, which is so funny. Like I said at the beginning of the episode, like observing myself, taking time for myself. Um, , I was in therapy a couple years ago for something totally different and . I was just telling her my life story and was explaining that, you know, I went through a lot of death and you know, I [00:30:00] ended up in and just kind of like my, everything that I just shared with you, I was in, I left home, I went to Nevada City, I went to San Luis Obispo.
I've traveled, I, you know, now I'm Santa Cruz and everything to her and you know, and her being like, wow, you really like that is the way you coped or that is the way you needed to grieve was to get out, was to flee, was to be by yourself. And I was like, wow. I never looked at it that way. That that was my coping mechanism, which we all are gonna have coping mechanisms to just like get through existing, because the human experience is a lot sometimes.
And so for me it's like if I just needed to go be by myself. , I can totally hold space for that. And I think that's a hundred percent fine. And like I said, all of these deaths were like an, an initiation into who I am now, and I'm so proud of who I am now. Um, but that was a big part of it was just spending so much time alone.
And I know I have family members and I have friends [00:31:00] that if you're gonna be my friend, you need to know that I may disappear for X amount of time because that's just, I'm also an Aquarius. So that's kind of like in my nature to just kind of go be, and I need you to let me do that and I'll come back when I'm ready.
Um, but I did that for a while. Like my childhood best friend, I just hold so much love for her that I now look back on my twenties and I'm like, wow. The amount of times that I unknowingly abandoned her because I just, I couldn't handle it. I was going through so much stuff on my own that I needed to just get away and go be with myself.
And she could, she had understanding for that and could hold compassion for that And. Loved me through those times in my life, and now I feel like I'm making up for all of those when I was MIA. But that was a big part of it, was being alone and, and allowing myself time to be quiet enough to hear the people that I lost in the non-physical, [00:32:00] and again, I keep using the word initiation, but it was, it was like this stepping stone that allowed me to play with non-physical so much and understand like my own intuition and where that's coming from and how it's kind of all connected and just energy in general, becoming aware of energy in, in the universe, becoming aware of how I can impact energy, how my actions can create a new reality.
Like that was all because I just was by myself. So I was definitely like in a. Solitary monk phase for most of my twenties. Like while everyone was out drinking and partying and like I'd go to festivals, like I was super down with the festival. Um, but another funny thing is it's like I'm allergic to alcohol.
So I was never really granted that period of life where a lot of people find themselves kind of partying and having fun and getting drunk and like more power to you. You know how many times I feel so weird for not being [00:33:00] able to experience that, but that was a part of my journey and I've had many intuitives and psychics and whoever healers tell me like, oh no you weren't.
You were, that was for a reason. You were not supposed to be wasting your time with any of that because you were meant to be doing all the work that you were doing now. And I can't imagine if I was going through everything I went through on top of messing around with too many substances, like that probably wouldn't have gone very well.
So, um. Yeah, solitude. I mean, there was a couple of teachers that I really enjoyed. Um, I would really try to get into,
uh, what's the word? I don't wanna say old, but teachers maybe from the past and they would kind of resonate and I could total, I could kind of get into it, but I really, really, really appreciate teachers of the present, people who are like living through experience now and sharing it. And so there's this woman just [00:34:00] lively.
I don't know if you're familiar with her. And she started a podcast, I wanna say in 2014 or 15. And that was my first introduction to podcasts in general. I wish I remembered how I found it, no idea how I found it. And she basically started this audio journal of like, what is it gonna look like if I just start following my intuition like a crazy amount.
Like if my, and, and it was, it was an insane amount where it's like she basically documented her divorce and like, you know, sold her house, sold everything she owned and just, and not that like everyone has to go through something that extreme, but for her it was, and it was just kind of this like perfect storm of her feeling called to share it.
And there being a new platform like podcasting where she just really capitalized on all of that. And it was a place and a community for me to listen and to feel connected with all these other, mainly women who starting to [00:35:00] embrace this part of themselves. And you know, Danielle and I often talk about in our podcast that our mission is to demystify spirituality.
So I think that's maybe why I wasn't as attracted to as many like older modalities or things that are like really, that have been around for a while because I'm here to implement. Newer perspectives on those things. So I love things like astrology. Obviously I love things like chakras. Chakras are amazing for correlating to everyday life and like making things make sense.
It's crazy. Um, I love all of that stuff. It's actually really interesting. I had someone tap into my Akashic Records for the first time a couple days ago, and that's one area of life or one area of like spirituality that I haven't really felt interested in. Like my intuition doesn't like go off when I hear about acoustic records, but it does about literally everything else.
And I've been interested in everything else. And so, you know, [00:36:00] uh, the person who tapped into it was giving me like this writeup about everything and everything she saw. And I could, you know, it was a whole thing, which was very cool. But the main thing that I found fascinating, and she's like, you have two places that you keep your Akashic records, your personal Akashic records.
One of 'em. let me see the other one. You, you said that there's no, there's no reason for you to see these right now, um, or in this lifetime. And the ones that she did see, she's like, I've never had this happen. They were blank. You don't need to, you don't need to. You're writing new ones. And I was like, that's feel so true to who I am.
Because through my own experiences, that's almost why, like there's not a lot of modalities that I link onto. Uh, because I do think it's almost like this trial and error scientific game that I play with myself where I'm like, I'm gonna learn through trial and error, but I'm going to look for answers within myself.
Like, you really can't tell me what I should be doing [00:37:00] because whether it's the smallest decision or the biggest decision, I'm gonna go inward and ask myself before I ask
anyone else.
Cameron: Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I resonate a lot with the inward journey and the monk
on the mountaintop,
or
rather the camera
in Maui .It's the same. I'm on the side of Mount Holly Acala. Right. Um, but I also really resonate with the coping mechanism of. Call it what it is, abandonment,
Track 1: Mm-Hmm.
Cameron: of disappearing and doing my own thing and taking care of myself alone.
And this is actually, um, a theme that I'm working through right now in a very deep way and in many ways sort of reintegrating myself back into my family and others that I have unconsciously abandoned to protect myself in the past. And yet knowing full well that all of those times inward were so [00:38:00] required for me to know who I am, to heal myself, to shift my consciousness, to awake, awaken, um, to build my business, to do all of the things that I've done and have led me to this point.
And now it's like, oh, that pattern isn't gonna serve you moving forward. It did in the past, but now you gotta go figure out this abandonment coping thing. You need to shift this because really you're meant to be with people and to be in the world and to be of service and to be helped and you're not doing it alone. Um, so it's an interesting experience that I'm having, but a lot of resonance with what you shared and just my own
journey right now.
Track 1: Well, it's funny too 'cause it's, it's, I actually wanted to touch on this. It's like what you said earlier, when it comes to the real spiritual moments happen in hardship and happen in situations in life where it's like, okay, it's time. It, it, it's like exposure therapy. You know, it's like in therapy you can go over a fear or an anxiety over and over again about like, oh, I'm anxious about this or that.
And it's like [00:39:00] that Your therapist eventually is gonna be like, okay, go do that thing. 'cause you gotta work through it. And it's the same thing with spirituality where it's like, okay, you've been alone for X amount of time now time to reintegrate into the family time to really do that work as a unit because there's so much, which again, by all means, if you are being harmed emotionally, physically, in a relationship or family dynamic, yes.
Leave,
go do your own thing. Create your own reality. But for a lot of us in the spiritual community or anyone who takes like takes that on or starts having awareness around your life and really takes ownership of your own existence and creating your own reality and blah, blah, blah. If you're listening to this, you're probably one of those people I've realized that reintegrating into those places that you once found difficult is the biggest teacher, is the biggest lesson.
And it's, it's why at least I'm here. And I think all of us, that's another thing I've realized [00:40:00] generationally. Like again, like I said earlier, this episode, we all have trauma. We all have gone through shit, not one person. You can feel so individualized in your experience and you can be like, oh, no one's felt it the way I felt it, or no one's going through it the way my family's going through it.
And it's like we all are going through it because as a collective we're, you know, there are the few people where you see them living like a perfect family life. And trust me, it's not. Um, 'cause I've gone through that. Illusion of being like, look at the way they live. And like, oh, it's so nice. And then I spend any kind of one-on-one time with them, and I'm like, oh.
But they're so like repressed and they're so, they're just ignoring everything, which is fine. If you wanna live a life ignoring things, that's fine. But me being who I am and understanding alchemy and knowing that like to truly become the best version of myself and the highest, my highest self, I'm gonna have to go through the fire to get to the other side.
And in any situation in [00:41:00] life, relationships, like, I feel like we're also in a culture right now of like, just leave when it gets hard. Just like, it's fine. Go take care of yourself. You know, we're in a very individualist, you know, uh, place right now when it comes to, and again, like we were saying, if you do need to leave and take care of yourself, that's fine.
But also know that there is a lot of power in staying in something and working through something, especially when you are . in relationships that have been like divinely placed in your life. Like, don't just take those for granted because that those can be your biggest teachers, especially the ones where you go, I have no idea how this will ever be solved.
I have no idea. But you stay and you stick it out, and you keep doing the exposure therapy over and over and over again, and you keep showing up as a better version, and maybe you take some time away and then you come back. But are the most rewarding relationships, at least for myself and experiences in life.
It, it doesn't always have to be a relationship. Like my [00:42:00] relationship with anxiety also been a whole fucking journey and podcast episode that we could do. But the place where I am right now when it comes to my own mental health and my, uh, nervous system, I am so proud of where I am because in all of those moments when it was really hard, I didn't turn away.
I mean, there was plenty of times when I've had to use medication or . had to self-sooth in other ways to get through a moment, but I always go back and say, no, you can do this yourself. You got this, you can do this yourself. And now that I'm entering my thirties, I am so incredibly grateful that I have mastered this part of myself.
Rather than being like fearful and always turning away and not wanting to accept it, I now kind of like walk into it with open arms because I know I have the tools to get through those
moments.
Cameron: Hmm. Yeah. And it's really about knowing you have the tools you can not even cope, but respond to [00:43:00] life in the way that feels the most aligned for you, which I. This is my next question. Um, how do you know when you're aligned with your higher self?
Track 1: Well, and I think that's also why like I spent so much time alone, is to get really clear on who I am, who my higher self is. I get why Europeans take a year off, take a gap year in between high school and going, you know, doing whatever they wanna do with their adult life. It's like, it's really insane that we expect kids to know what they're going to do and who they're gonna be.
Um, and so I took a lot of time to figure out who I am and what that looks like. And again, I was really blessed with the experiences in my life as far as like working at an outdoor school. And we would go to, um, they weren't retreats, I forget what they're called, but be conferences. We'd go to conferences as teachers.
And again, it's such a like beautiful space to bring [00:44:00] all these people together. And the people that are there at the conferences are really helping us tap into our higher selves. And one of the practices was a higher self meditation. And so I did this at, I don't know, I must have been 18 or 19 years old, and just really letting myself play.
And be like, what does, and for me at least, I'm a very like, design, um, aesthetic person. So for me, the first thing that I let myself gravitate towards was what does she look like? And, you know, really looking at like her hair, her clothes, her body. Like what did that all look like? And then from there it's like, okay, what did she feel like?
Okay, now how did she speak? What were her beliefs? And so really getting like a, and then once you kind of get clear on all those things, it just encompasses an energy. And that's another thing. It's like the more time you are alone, the [00:45:00] more time you're able to read energies and to really discern what you're feeling into in any given moment.
So when it comes to my higher self, it's like I can feel so quickly if this is something that she's on board with or not. And exposure therapy, which is life. It's like we can all hermit forever and be our, you know, in our own little bubble. But eventually, if you want to actually like you and I, it's like we've probably had other lives where we hermit it our whole lives.
'cause that's where we felt safe, . But now it's like we're meant to have podcasts, we're meant to have conversations, we're meant to put ourselves out there. And so now I need that skill of being able to discern, this right, is this wrong? Literally every single day, all day with everything that I'm doing?
Um, because it's such a skill, especially when it comes to, like I said, the internet, putting yourself out there, like being in these, this modern day of spirituality, uh, where things happen so quickly and so fast. So if you can have better discernment [00:46:00] over your higher self and like . Your higher self is in correlation with your intuition.
Like that's how your higher self communicates to you is through your intuition. So if you can get clear on all of these things, which I took the time to do, like other people went to college, I went to the, the school of self. Like I literally did. Like, that's what I did is I sat with myself, I practiced, um, I've gone through, you know, I've had other businesses in the past and letting things rise and fall as they, as they may.
And then observing myself and how I handle it and how my higher self would then choose to show up. So I feel like I am pretty aligned and in tune with my highest self now, um, and who she was when I imagined her 10 years ago. But now it's interesting 'cause she's now morphing into someone else. So I now have someone else to strive for in the next 10 years, which is very
exciting.
Cameron: I think, [00:47:00] I think this is really valuable. I haven't had the conversation with anyone on the show yet. Speaking of a personified higher self, so for those of you who are listening and you hear my episodes, this may be quite a nugget for you to maybe bring to your own meditation. Or contemplation practice to do exactly what you were just describing. What does this being, this higher self look like, feel like? Maybe start with look, but look like, feel, like, act like, what are they doing? Um, and that can be a way to start to build your relationship with that essence, that entity that essentially you are a part of. And if I can bend people's minds here, it's what you were just saying here in, in just the same way that you, your present self can speak to your inner child or a past version of you, right?
You can go into your meditation or you can sit in contemplation, you can talk to your inner child, [00:48:00] the aspect of you that is still within you. That hurt little boy that got yelled at in the playground. Whatever, right? Just as you can do that in your present moment. This is a, this is a fascinating thing about human consciousness.
We have the ability to project into the future and to go back into the past. Most people are in those two places and not in the present, but it is part of our consciousness to be able to do this. So we can go back and speak to old versions of ourself, the 18-year-old Cameron who was going through this, the 21-year-old Cameron who was going through this.
I can speak to that version of me and guide him literally. And as you do that, it actually shifts things within you in very much the same way. Your higher self is a future self for you now. So in many ways, you presently, if you wanna play with this one, y'all drew on this for a while. You presently are the higher self for younger versions of yourself, of, you know, this being that you have been becoming your entire [00:49:00] life and that your higher self or your future self is. The same exact thing, but for you now, time doesn't really exist. It's just an illusion down here on planet Earth. So that's literally how it is. so you can tap into that future self or the higher self.
Um,
Track 1: It is all integration. That's all it is. It's a process of integrating that person into your being now and alchemizing the person You are now into that future self, and that's why the connection with your intuition is so. Just like necessary and important, and you need to have it because again, that is your communication line with that higher self, and that is how you slowly integrate into becoming
that version. So you, you can, you know, you can ask, you can say your intuition, but you can also be like, once you get clear and have the meditation of like, who is this person? What do they look like? How would they react? What are their beliefs? If you're in it, again, in the exposure therapy moment of a difficult situation, ask yourself, [00:50:00] how would they, how would they handle this?
What would they do? How would they show up? And a lot of the times it's different than how you presently would show
up or handle things. And so that's, that's the point where it can be very uncomfortable, very painful, where you have to course correct. If you're choosing to have ownership over your life and your reality, you say, Ooh, like my ego really doesn't wanna do this, but my intuition is telling me I can handle this better if
I choose to.
Cameron: Oh my God. I was just thinking ww JD No, W-W-H-C-D. What would hire cam do?
Track 1: Right.
Cameron: or
insert your own letter there? Um, yeah, but you're making a, a super important point about the intuition. I do have clients who often wanna work with me actually to develop their intuition. And their intuitive abilities. I mean, my work is essentially, I mean, is about supporting people in living, in alignment with their higher self so that they're living their soul's purpose. [00:51:00] This is not just some floaty idea. How do we actually, and there are ways to learn this, how do we actually build this relationship with our higher self? And fundamental to that is your relationship to your intuition, knowing how you are receiving messages from your higher self, that tingles on the head, the feeling in the throat, the gut, wherever it might be in your body, physically in the body, and building that relationship with your intuition. When people say things to me like, oh, I'm not intuitive, or I don't have an intuition, first of all, that's wrong. It is absolutely a hundred percent incorrect. As a human being on planet Earth, this is built into our design. To have an intuitive knowing, intuitive knowledge, connection to source, God oneness, the universe, and our higher self. This is natural. However, our planet that we live on does pretty much everything to destroy that connection. Most people are not taught, you're not taught [00:52:00] in school how to meditate, how to connect with your higher self, how to trust your gut. This is not something you're gonna see inside the Rockefeller school systems here. Medicine doesn't understand it, and if you have any sort of inclination towards this and you don't understand it, and you speak too loud, you might be labeled to the medical issue, and now you're on some sort of hardcore medication to dull this connection, our lives are far too stimulated to feel the subtleties in our bodies. I can go on and on and on about the poison in the water and the food and all this other stuff. But there's so much in our world that is actually designed to sever that separation. But I'm telling everyone listening, it exists. It is your nature to be connected with source, with God, with oneness, and with your higher self. Most humans have not been told that that's true, or think it's some special gift that some people have and not others. That's not true. But your body may not be [00:53:00] functioning to its highest. So talk about the chakra system, energetics of the body and food and health and all of that. that. could be a piece of it. You also maybe just never,
were taught
and yet this
is what is required in order to live with your higher self and to be living your truth, really. And um. There are many ways to work with this, but to understand fundamentally, first that you have an intuition, period. It is built into your beingness as a human, your ability to connect with
God,
with source.
We are that. And if you are not feeling that, it's because there are things that are out of whack. You're not aligned with your higher nature, and that's not a problem. Don't go give it up. Well, I'm done. I'm never gonna be intuitive. I can't follow this guidance. I listen to Cameron speak on his podcast, but my goodness, it sounds woo woo. No. There are actual things you can do, with your diet, understanding spiritual practices, understanding the [00:54:00] chakra system, understanding how to develop your intuition. It's probably why you're listening to this podcast anyway, but I just wanted to go on that little, um, soapbox there about how vital. Your relationship with your intuition is if you wanna have any relationship with your higher self, if you wanna have any relationship with God, if you wanna have any relationship with your ancestors, who are trying to talk to you, to nature, who's trying to talk to you, all of these things, that is first and foremost.
Track 1: Yeah. I always tell people when they're like, what? How do I do it? And I'm like, because I, you know, like, if you wanna talk to me about it, great. But that's also why I love having a podcast, because it's like, here's a catalog of conversations about this thing. Um, but one thing that I often say is like, first step, stop asking people for advice.
Like, really, anytime I, anytime I'm, I jump to, oh, let me see what they think about this. It's like, no, ask yourself, what do you think about this thing? Like, it can be [00:55:00] as small as like, what should I wear today? What should I eat at a restaurant? Like, what should I like? Just start with small things like that, and then work your way up to bigger questions about your own life.
It doesn't have to be like the biggest, you know, pivotal shift that's gonna happen in your life, where it's like, where should I live? Who should I be with? It's like, if you're not used to asking your intuition things, start small. Start small, go from there, because it's a lot less daunting and you realize, like, sometimes you realize how disconnected you truly are and how much you outsource.
To other people rather than asking
yourself.
Cameron: Yeah. Or chat, GBT
Track 1: Yeah,
Cameron: Um,
Yeah,
but it's true. And I, I like that advice to don't start or don't think you're gonna start listening to your intuition with some of the largest decisions of your life, You're not gonna
trust it. You know, when I say, when I say to friends or family, like, I'm moving to Los Angeles now, and they're like. Well, anyone close to me now understands [00:56:00] how I live in connection with my intuition and my higher self that basically don't bother questioning it because I've done the work. Like if Cameron has said something out loud is happening or a decision is made, I've already done the work. I'm not processing it.
It's, it's happened, um, in some sort of etheric realm before it happens in the physical. And so when I say I'm moving to Los Angeles, I'd be like, well, wait, why or how do you know? It's like,
it's correct. it's the time.
And people are wondering how
I know this or what's bringing me there. And I just know many things, many opportunities. You know, some people it's like they would need to have the job lined up and the apartment lined up and the this lined up and everything else and needs to make sense before that choice is made. And that's not at all how I live my life. It's like, no, the guidance is there. It's been there for a quite a while. Um. Feels correct. I know it's time. I think even you asked at the beginning, have you, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Do you have your apartment yet, or did you say maybe you didn't do that? Sorry, [00:57:00] I'm confusing it with another Um, no, but people ask, well, do you have your apartment yet? Or do you have this yet?
Or that? I'm like, no,
I'm just getting on a plane.
Track 1: See, I, I know better to
ask than to ask things like that. 'cause
Cameron: you
Track 1: way. I'm like, why would I ask someone that? Like I like? And that's the other thing is people aren't gonna worry about you if you show up with fullest confidence in your intuition and yourself. Like people know not to question me like you were saying.
I tell you and I stare into your eyes and say, oh no, this is what I'm doing. Don't think that I'm just making some decision Willy-nilly. 'cause once you start trusting your own intuition, you understand that everyone has their inner guidance system and everyone is making decisions based on what is true and correct for them.
So by you walking and, and it's one thing if they come to you and maybe their intuition isn't strong enough yet, or discernment isn't there yet where they are looking for guidance. And like, by all means, don't turn them away and be like, ask yourself that question. Like if they're asking, you know, be a kind human being and respond.
But, [00:58:00] you know, for the most part it's like if, if when it comes to myself, when I'm confident enough in a decision or in my own intuition, it's like people know like, oh, she's good. Because when you show up confidently in your decisions, they're not gonna question you. The second you show up and you're like,
Teetering and that energy is off and you're not certain. That's when people feel the need to step in and are like, wait a second, or they may just be projecting onto you their lack of confidence within their own intuition and their own inner
guidance system.
Cameron: Totally. Yeah. For those of you who are interested in connecting with Savannah, you can check out the links in the show notes.
Thank you so much for being here with me today.
Along my own spiritual journey and from my experience supporting people in living their soul's purpose, I've discovered that living in alignment with our purpose comes down to three things. And unfortunately, most people unknowingly ignore these three things that will actually help them live in alignment. [00:59:00] These three things form my Soul's Purpose Framework.
If you're ready to learn how these things can support you in your spiritual journey. Check out my video resource, "The 3 Keys to Your Soul's Purpose".
In it, I share my framework for helping you identify what's the next best step. On your journey to living your purpose. You can find this free video resource on my website at yourpathandpurpose.com and I left a link to it in the show notes. A special thanks to this week's guest for sharing their journey with us. And I want to thank you for listening to today's episode. My name is Dr. Cameron Martin, and it has been my honor to serve you on your journey of self-discovery. See you next time.