Episode 021: Your Authentic Self and Your Purpose
With George Lizos
Aligning with our soul's purpose requires the art of energetic authenticity. In order to be who we were born to be, we must be willing to be authentic.
On this episode I speak with Spiritual Teacher, Psychic Healer, and Greek pagan priest George Lizos about the power of engaging with life as a pathway to living our soul's purpose. In this conversation we talk about energetic protection, how to deal with spiritual cords, mastering our energy, and our relationship to authenticity.
If you're ready to know the 3 Keys to Living Your Soul's Purpose, check out my free video resource here.
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Episode Transcript:
George Lizos: If you're born with certain talents and proclivities and interests that is your purpose, to be that, not to deny who you are
Cameron: welcome to the Path and Purpose Podcast, where your journey of self-discovery meets with a collective awakening of humanity. I'm your host, Dr. Cameron Martin. In this exciting time of expansion and growth, we are witnessing a profound shift in consciousness. As spiritually awakening individuals, we are called to embrace our inner wisdom intuition and the deeper knowing that we're meant for more.
As an eternal student of the universe and a spiritual leader, I have dedicated my life to supporting your journey of transformation. Through this podcast, we embark on a shared exploration where you can find inspiration, insights, and guidance from the stories of others who are walking similar paths, to see your truth reflected in their [00:01:00] experiences, and to ignite the confidence to believe in the bigger purpose that awaits you.
This podcast is here to provide inspiration, insights, and guidance so that the path to living your soul's purpose becomes less of a mystery and more of a discovery.
Join me for this episode of the podcast where we will explore the many paths to living our soul's purpose.
Cameron: On this episode of the podcast, I'm very excited to have George Lizos here with me. George is a spiritual teacher, psychic healer, Greek pagan priest, creator of the Intuition Mastery School, and a number one bestselling author. I. He's also the host of the Lit Up Lightworker and Can't Host podcasts. George has been recognized as one of the top 50 health and wellness influencers with his work featured in Goop, pop Sugar and MINDBODY Green. And also George is [00:02:00] a good friend of mine, so I'm so excited to connect with you today, George. Welcome.
Track 1: Hi, Cameron. So lovely to see you again.
Cameron: It's nice to see you too. The last time we were together, um, we were in Athens.
Uh, and a wonderful time there spiritually and also.
Track 1: It was so much fun hanging out. Well, I spent the whole day, had so many conversations. I loved it.
Cameron: Yeah, talk about like going to a foreign nation. George is like, yeah, I'll meet up with you, but go to this place, go to this place and go to this place and then tell me how you feel later. So I go on, uh, my little wild goose chase through Athens spiritually, and I have all of these. Moments of awakening and realization, and then we'd sit down and have conversations about spirituality and our purpose and all of it.
So I'm, anyway, I'm excited to share a little bit of that magic with, uh, the audience today.
Track 1: Yes.
Cameron: Cool. Well, let's jump in here. So I really wanna know what marked the beginning of your spiritual awakening.[00:03:00]
Track 1: So it all started when I was around 15 years old, but to give you the full story, I need to go a little bit back to when I was growing up in Cyprus. The first memory I have of myself is like of a five year old George, just standing in the. Field of yellow daisies and staring up at the sky and wondering what is my life purpose?
What is the purpose of this life? So I was one of those weird kids that talked to flowers and asked life's big questions while other kids Went to parties and played in the playground. I was just by myself asking those questions So from a very young age, I was weird and as a result I stood out and I felt like I was Not accepted by other people, I wouldn't fit in, so I was bullied from a very young age.
Now fast forward, to the time that I was 13 years old, that's when I realized that I was gay. In a world, in a society, in a small island of Cyprus, that did not really accept homosexuality. Up, up to a certain point in my [00:04:00] childhood, it was illegal to be gay, so it was still a huge taboo. It wasn't talked about.
So, I had an entire history of being bullied and being judged for being different. Wasn't gonna easily accept yet another label, especially a label that was tied to being a criminal and being a pedophile, et cetera. So I'm like, you know what? I have to do what I do best. I'm going to change myself to match other people's expectations and be who other people want me to be.
So that's when I started monitoring the way I walked, the way I talk, the way I expressed myself, essentially trying to change who I am. And two years later, after this self masochism after I couldn't change who I was born to be. I'm like, you know what, what is the point? I'm a human abomination. I'm not going to make it in life.
Why don't I just do everyone a favor and kill myself? And that's when I reached that low point of my life. That I was ready to [00:05:00] put an end to it. So I had a bunch of pills, I had written a letter to my parents, and I'm like, I was ready to put an end to it. And that's when my spiritual journey started.
Because in that lowest moment in my life, I heard a voice. I had an epiphany. And that epiphany was... Fuck what people think, fuck what society thinks, and just learn to love and accept yourself exactly as you are. Which was easier said than done, because I didn't know how to love myself. All I experienced was self loathing, bullying, and judgment.
But, when you open yourself up to change, when you ask for help, Help is always given. The universe shows up for you. And that's when I discovered Louise Hay's work about you can heal your life. And then I discovered Feng Shui. And then I got into astral projection. And then step by step by step, spiritual modality after the other, I brought myself to a state of accepting, loving myself, forgiving my bullies.
[00:06:00] And then I thought, you know what? I have all these tools now, what do I do with them? Why don't I help people do the same? And that's how my path started.
Cameron: Hmm. Beautiful. Yeah, a lot of resonance, obviously. Um, now I. as a gay man grew up in Massachusetts, in the United States, which is not at all probably the experience of Cyprus because actually it's pretty open. Um, but even so, I, I understand the self-hatred, the self-loathing, the hiding, the pretending for me. I got really, really good at creating a mask and like this, um, character of someone who is really
well put together. And always had his shit in a row and, you know, was likable and was successful and worked his ass off. Um, this was like the character that I created for myself. Um, and I even realized through my journey [00:07:00] over, you know, I. All of this time, even now, I'm like, oh, I still got those remnants of that like image, um, piece. But I totally hear that. And I also went through a dark night of the soul. Not to the extent that you did, but so many people like us do. Um, and so yeah, you hear the voice and you were like, okay. I'm good.
Um, so I know for you, you have a spiritual treasure trove, I would say, of a toolbox compared to maybe many others in the world. So you have many different modalities, many different tools, many different things you share with your audience, uh, with your clients, all of that. But what are the tools that were really big for you on your journey, and how did that come to be?
Track 1: One of the biggest tools that I now use, and I wish I had back then, was knowing how to protect my energy. [00:08:00] So my third book, which is called Protect Your Light, is all about that. And here's how I explain it, because... Everyone's talking about shielding yourself with white light and calling upon Archangel Michael, and of course those are powerful tools, but what's at the basis of this?
At the basis of this is that apart from our physical body and our emotions and our thoughts, etc., we also have an energetic body beneath our physical reality. There is energy and that extends outside of our body as well. In the same way that we dress up our physical body and we take care of our physical body, depending on the context in the same way, we learn how to emotionally regulate and also deal with our thoughts.
When they come up, we also need to have tools that we can use to protect and guide and navigate the energetic world and our own energy. So since we're talking about purpose as well, we all have a purpose. We're born with this purpose, unless our energy is authentic. [00:09:00] And therefore, unless our energy is clear and in alignment with who we, with who we really are, then we don't really know our purpose and we can't really follow our purpose because our aura is like a sponge.
It attracts people's thoughts, energies, et cetera. So it gets cluttered by external energy attachments to the point that if we don't clear them and we, our aura becomes so cluttered, we end up thinking other people's thoughts, feeling other people's emotions, behaving in ways that are not in alignment with who we really are and following other people's.
purpose. So if I had those tools back then of learning how to cleanse my energy and protect my energy, I wouldn't allow other people's judgments of me to become my understanding of who I am. The false illusion of who I thought I was, I would learn to align myself earlier on with the truth of who I am.
And that's why I define energy protection as [00:10:00] the art of being energetically authentic. It's about ensuring that what's yours is yours and what's theirs is theirs. So to briefly answer your question, to summarize, energy protection Is the number one tool that I use right now, but of course there are so many other modalities, but that one is the one that stands out right now because I know how important it is to be energetically authentic.
Cameron: I love the, the. The label, the title really about authentic energy and um, authentic expression of energy. I talk about in a very similar way, you just said, right, if you want to live your soul's purpose, which we all have, that we need to live in alignment with our higher self. I think you're saying it in a beautiful way, in another way, another avenue for people to sort of think about, which is your authentic energy. And understanding the expression of your energy, your whole entire being [00:11:00] authentically, right. I speak about that as the higher self. But um, I love that. And the thing is, most people are not energetically clean. In fact, it's why our world looks the way it does, because as you said, people pick up this person's thought, this person's belief.
You guys, if you're watching the news, you're in, you're ingesting fear period. And it's probably not yours if you. You know, or an abusive relationship with someone, but you're not like creating boundaries with that, then that's impacting you. That's affecting you. I found that on my spiritual journey, and I think it's why so many spiritual teachers or you hear about sages and gurus, they go up on a mountain, whether it's a mountain or not, or they disappear in a desert for 40 days or they, whatever, and they go be on their own, which really is a, an An expression of an energetic experience of being in your own energy. Right. So for me, my time living in Maui has been very much that I've [00:12:00] had
a lot of time and space to really connect with my own energy, to get really, really clear about what is authentically me and what is not. And being able to let go of a lot of stuff that isn't, 'cause I'm not around a lot of people. I'm around nature most of the time. Um. But I wanna ask for somebody who's listening, they're like, okay, George, so I need to protect my energy. Um, how do I do that? Or, what's a, what's one thing maybe I could do in my life that would actually start to shift this for me?
Track 1: so in protect your light I share a seven step practice of Cleansing and protecting your energy, but I want to share the main three steps. So the first step is identify that means using your own intuitive abilities to scan your body and identify what's Actually there because there are so many different types of I call them in the book energetic attachments.
You have toxic courts with other people, with places, with [00:13:00] objects, with past lives, etc. There are karmic vows and contracts that you've had from past lives. There are this residual spatial energy you've attracted from like different places you've been. There are collective thought forms. You talked about the news that we get attached to as well.
There are Um, spirit attachments that can be on your energetic field, sucking away and siphoning away your energy. So first step is identifying what is actually there. And it's important that we do this every single morning, every single morning, 15 minutes checking in the same time. It takes you. brush your teeth and put on clothes.
You need that time as well for your own energy as well. And then after you identify, then you have to cleanse what's there. And there are different tools that we can use and explain the book about cleansing. Many people are aware of the main tools. We have Palo Santo and Sage, we can call upon Archangel Michael, we can pull upon the elementals.
There are different practices, both [00:14:00] like physically based and also meditation based. But I make the case for working with the earth in the book. I consciously have not included working with angels and other spirit guides because I want people to claim their own power to cleanse their energy. I believe that our own body.
Is the most powerful cleansing tool and also working with the earth who is the og energy protector She's been here for 4. 5 billion years We've been here for a few hundred thousand years and we think that we're destroying the earth Now, I have a degree in geography, and what my geography teachers always taught me is that it's not about saving the Earth, it's about saving the human race, cause the Earth has been here for 4.
5 billion years, it knows how to survive. Yes, we are destroying the Earth in the short term, up to the point when the Earth goes like [00:15:00] COVID, and kicking a few hundred thousand people out of the planet, or doing whatever it can to regain her
balance.
Cameron: Earthquakes, volcano, floods, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Track 1: will find her balance, even if that means like drowning us out of the system.
So it's a, it's a mantra of working with the earth, partnering with the earth and using and leveraging her cleansing qualities to cleanse our own energy as well, rather than abusing her. So I'm all about partnering with the earth, not saving the earth because it's arrogant to think that. It's all about supporting the earth, respecting the earth.
Loving the earth and also leveraging the earth's practices of cleansing to cleanse our own energy as well. That's why I include many practices that are elemental based. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. And then step [00:16:00] number three, that was a run to that I had to do. And then step number three. So we have identified cleanse step.
Number three is shield. Now let's talk about the white shield, the white bubble, the freaking white bubble. Every single book we open on like energy protection, they're like, Oh, just the white bubble. I'm like, the white bubble is not, uh, It doesn't do everything. It is a powerful shield I included in the book, but it's one shield that does one very specific thing.
And it worked for everything, maybe 20 years ago. But now we're so interconnected, there are so many different types of energies and energy exchanges. We need something more complex. It's not complicated, just complex. So in the book, I explain and I share different types of shields, such as amplifying shields that raise your vibration, repelling shields that repel negative energy, [00:17:00] and transmuting shields that transmute the energy as it comes in.
So based on the context and what we need, we can use different types of shields and layer different types of shields.
Cameron: Hmm. I'm gonna ask this 'cause I can hear maybe some listeners going, well, that's nice George, 'cause you're spiritual and you're an energy healer and all of this. But can I do energy work?
Track 1: Everyone can do energy work because we are all made of energy. Now, I want to say something here that I think is very important. I wasn't born quote unquote gifted. Because when it comes to like the spiritual world and psychics and energy work, etc. Society has trained us to believe that you have to be born with a gift of doing something like that.
I was the biggest muggle you ever met. I just had a passion about [00:18:00] these topics. So I worked my ass off to learn those skills. I was not one of those psychics that saw spirits in the middle of the night and angels appeared in front of me and my dead grandmother came and talked to me like In real life.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I was closed off. I just learned to develop my abilities. So in the same way that I can do that, anyone can do that. It's a matter of learning the tools that we need to work with energy. That's why I wrote this book because I see so many people now that spirituality is not taught in mystery schools like in the ancient times and it's freely available to everyone.
It's easy to abuse and be hurt. By, by energy work and by the spirit world, it's like driving a car without getting a license first. Of course, you can drive it, but you're going to have an accident sooner rather than later. So when we know how to navigate the energy world, it's better. So that's why we need tools like that.
To [00:19:00] help us do so rather than just jump in using a Ouija board, for example, the worst thing you can ever do in your life to like connect with the spirit world and then find yourself being possessed and chased by demons. So, no, learn the tools, learn how to navigate, learn how to protect yourself and then make wise choices.
Cameron: Yeah, and you know what I really love that you shared is this understanding that like for you now, well you called it, you weren't special or gifted, but I didn't come into this world seeing dead people and dah, dah, dah, dah, and I didn't, I wasn't able to like read people's whatever health issues going on inside their body.
I didn't have any of these crazy gifts. Essentially what I did was learn to align. With my energy, right? Or you talked about this authentic energy and know who I truly was, authentically me. I would use the words, learn to align with your higher self. Um, I also really loved what you shared about the earth, which of course you're a pagan priest.
[00:20:00] I'm not surprised at all that you'd be talking about Gaia, but um, the earth. I think so many issues for people, first of all, in our world, as you accurately said, right? Humanity killing itself off of the planet. Sure. I. Good luck trying to kill the planet. You won't. Uh, we won't. But, um, I think so many of our own issues in terms of our consciousness and our spiritual ascension have to do with the fact that we believe we're divorced from Earth, that we're separate from Earth and we're not. We are. Living beings on a living being, I'm not a scientist here, so for those of you who are listening who are biologists or doctors, like, eh, this could be cringey, but inside of our gut, we have bacteria, right? And different microbiomes that exist inside of us, symbiotically, we need them to produce our own digestive processes, et cetera, right? There are mosses on trees [00:21:00] that also are symbiotic without one organism, the other doesn't exist, whatever. But we think we're separate from Earth, and yet we're like those little microbiomes inside of the belly of earth. And guess what? If she gets sick, she could just throw up figuratively
speaking, and then, you know, that can get changed.
But I think a super important. Component to any sort of spiritual path. Certainly Ascension has to do number one with coming into the body, which you've already described. That's been the most important for me. I think a lot of times in spirituality, we're always trying to ascend, ascend, ascend, get out of things, speak to angels, speak to whatever.
It's like, no, actually you need to bring more of your higher self, your full essence, your authentic energy. Into your body and grounded to the earth because we are of the earth, you know? Um, and in spiritual communities we talk about where you [00:22:00] hear about spiritual ascension. It's like, oh, ascending into five D or whatever. Okay, well Earth, Gaia, she already did that. we have the opportunity to go along for that ride. But again, not if we're divorced and separated this belief in separation. I am not George and I are different beings. I'm not you. The earth is different. I can take, I can pillage. I can plunder. I'm better than you. Judgment, da da dah da. This belief in separation is actually what keeps people in lower vibration understanding that actually we're all connected and we're connected to our mother Earth first and foremost. 'cause without that we're, we wouldn't live in this plane.
Track 1: 100%.
Cameron: Yeah. So. Can you describe a time where you felt really connected with your higher self? Or what does it feel like when you know that you're really tapped in and what is that like for you?
Track 1: So you, [00:23:00] you, you bring the topic of a spiritual practice, which I think is very important because that's how I do it essentially. And that's something that I've I've taught in my, in my first, in my, in my second book, and I haven't taught in the third book, and it reminds me that although the, the bells and whistles, the, the tools that we can use to like, as you say, communicate with the spirits and, um, protect our energy, et cetera, are important.
It's also important to go back to the basics when it comes to raising our vibration and connecting with who we really are, which is aligning ourselves with who we really are, with our, with source, with our inner being. The way it feels for me and the way that I do it and the way that I've done it for years is having a daily spiritual practice.
And the way that I define a spiritual practice is it's a happiness practice. It's a joy practice. I think we overcomplicate spirituality. by calling it spirituality. It's really being joyful, but joy [00:24:00] not being the ephemeral pleasure that we get when we have chocolate, for example. It's
the joy that we, I know, a joy that we're remembering who we are.
So we are, we don't, We don't search for happiness. We don't find happiness. We are happy, and we have to remember that we are happy because we've forgotten. So spiritual practice is a reminder of our happiness, of who we really are. And there are three pillars that I like to use when it comes to having a daily spiritual practice.
Which is first, is the duration. I believe it has to be at least 15 minutes. Otherwise, it's not enough time for our body to remember that. So we need to practice it. And also it shows our commitment to our joy and the connectedness to who we really are. Then we have, it has to be joyful. It has to be activities that actually make us Joyful.
And the third pillar is all about [00:25:00] being consistent with it. If it's not consistent, it's not a practice, it's a hobby. So it has to be day in, day out. And I can hear people saying, but I'm too busy, but I have kids, blah, blah, blah. You don't have kids, George, like you have time to do this by yourself, blah, blah, blah.
Yes. But I have an emergency practice and you can have an emergency practice as well, which is a practice that is the least you can do to maintain your current level of happiness. For me, when I worked a full time job, it was a 15 minute meditation. Now, it's a three hour thing.
Cameron: That's your, that's your emergency practice three.
Track 1: No, no, no. Now, my emergency is a 15 minute meditation. Now, my proper practice I'm in, it's a three hour long practice. But if I don't have the time, it's a 15 minute meditation, that's my emergency one. So anyone can have a five minute meditation in the morning, for example, to reconnect to who they really are.
So [00:26:00] to directly answer your question, how it makes me feel after I do my practice, it's an emotion of elation, but also an emotion of ease, because it's not always elation. Elation is a very intense emotion, okay, that we get when we've reached this really high Uh, state of connectedness, sometimes it can be contentment, sometimes it's just, it can just be ease and flow and just trust and just knowing that we're taken care of, which I think is important to note, because especially in the spiritual community, we search for those spiritual highs.
And when we get a high, we get hooked on the highs and we don't, and when we don't experience those highs every single day, we feel like, Oh, I've lost it. I felt epiphany. I was enlightened and then I lost it. No, you haven't lost it. You just got used to that high vibrational level and you're still vibrating there or a little bit lower, but the contrast [00:27:00] is not there anymore of where you were and where you've been.
Because you already are there, so you won't feel the contrast in the same way that you did before. You're just vibing there. And therefore, feeling content is enough. Can
Cameron: Well, yeah, it was beautiful. When I feel truly connected with my higher self, mostly it's contentment, ease. Um, a lot like free flow is what I feel most of the time. Sometimes super intense experiences of love that bring me to tears a lot of the times actually. But that's not always, and that's not after every meditation.
Mostly it's just like, huh. Okay. I feel chill now. like that's what that feels like. Like I'm kind of back to a center. Um, I kind of wanted to circle back to one piece that you were talking about before. So this connection with a higher self. These practices that, that matter. I think one of the biggest challenges for people on a spiritual journey [00:28:00] is fully committing. To practices that actually align themselves with their truth. It's one of the things that I'm all about. In fact, it's the, a huge thing that I work with my clients, especially my coaching program, is how do we create a sustainable practice for you that keeps you going? 'cause look, you can go to a retreat for a weekend.
You can go and do an amazing meditation or class with George and you feel bliss, the F out. The weekend comes, or Monday comes and like boom, you're back into your old habits super fast. And so, you know, I think this is the thing, and yes, the spiritual journey can be ups and downs and has its own, but we can create stability and create a more sustained relationship with our higher self, which. I personally think that meditation, however that looks for you, is like a cornerstone to that. But there are other practices too. Some people it's yoga, some people it's reiki, some people it's whatever. Uh, some people it's [00:29:00] sitting out in nature. Some people it's going to the beach. That's definitely part of a spiritual practice for me. And so anyway, but if we don't actually create not only the space. But the habit then yeah, we won't have this sustained connection with our higher self then when we have to make a tough decision or when we have to listen to our gut. We don't, 'cause we don't know what this feels like. Right. Um, so there's that.
And then the other piece that you were talking about earlier, raw, the chords, attachments, past life stuff, oaths you've taken from other times and places. I, for me. George and I have talked about this. I'm like, I have. I have work that I need to do and heal around vows that I've taken in other lifetimes as a priest.
They are very much impacting me in this life. Uh, this is why by the way, when you guys get married or when humans get married, we say until death do us part [00:30:00] as part of our vows. 'cause if you imagine that you were pledging yourself to someone for all these other lifetimes, total mess, you have to be healing all over.
But see, vows in the priesthood are not like that. And so anyway, uh, sometimes
Track 1: I say something about
that? I want to say something about True Death Do Us Part. Because that reminded me of, you know, I talked about toxic chords of attachments that we have to... So when people think of chords, energetic chords that we have to people, they think about people. But we also have them to past lives, to objects, to events, like
Cameron: Churches.
Track 1: to everything we have a relationship with.
Now, when we say those vows, they're literally energetic vows, we say till death do us part. And then let's say, for example, the relationship ends.
Because let's face it, many relationships that start with till death do us part, And in a divorce. Okay, so the relationship may end legally or physically, but energetically [00:31:00] stay intact.
And that's what I see over and over again, of people not being able to move on from their exes. Because the energetic course and the vow of till death do us part is still there and sometimes goes like ensues like lifetimes and lifetimes and lifetimes of having those karmic vows and contracts with people that keep manifesting.
Of course, sometimes we have like contracts that we agree to, to have with one another so we can learn certain soul lessons. Fair enough, but sometimes it's attack that spans lifetimes like karmic curses, for example, that have to do with those vows. That's why if I ever get married, I don't believe in that.
I mean, I watch, uh, like, um, what's it? Those TV series on Netflix. Oh, my God. I love the reality
Cameron: the.
Track 1: between the world.
Cameron: Oh, oh, like dating blind [00:32:00] or whatever. That one.
Track 1: is blind. Oh my God. I'm just obsessed with this show and I forgot. And they're like, all the time, I just, I just want to meet the person who I'm going to spend the rest of my life with.
This phrase, the rest of my life, until death do us part, triggers the heaven out of me. Because I think of all those chords, and I'm like, are you sure you want to make this commitment? Why not say, Until it's fun,
or as long as it's fun.
Cameron: It
serves us in our highest.
Track 1: Exactly! So you maintain the boundary of that energetic cord. You see, when you start thinking about energy, you don't use words in the same way you used words in the past. Words have a different meaning anymore, and actions have different meanings.
Cameron: Yeah,
Track 1: Sorry, another TED talk.
Cameron: No, but it's, it's true. And our words create our realities.
I mean, this [00:33:00] is very true. Words create thoughts that end up creating beliefs that create our entire experience of our
existence. That's our reality. But when we speak. All right. But when words are used, we create something. Look, I can create a coaching program.
George and I are gonna do a coaching program next week, and you guys wanna sign up. Where did that come from? I just, by the way, that's not happening unless he says yes. But where did that happen? In a thought? And when I expressed Word, the idea was created, the energy was created. He didn't pick it up. So we're not doing it.
But nonetheless, um. But it is like that. And when you become aware of energy and you become aware of your words, what you're agreeing to, how you relate to others, you realize like, Ooh, maybe I, I don't really wanna say that. I wanna be a lot more careful with my language because I know it's creating. But yeah, this is a big reason why, you know, I do the work of QHHG, quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique, which is really past life work meets [00:34:00] healing, meets conversation with your higher self.
'cause I. Many of us, if not, I would argue all of us have things affecting us in our lives presently that we don't know why, because it's not from this life because it's from other incarnations. Why are you so violently angry at your mother in this life? Well, because. For the last six times, you guys incarnated together, you, she murdered you or whatever.
Right. I know that sounds dramatic, but um, this could be true this
could be the case. And
Track 1: And the cord is there, and you need to do psychic surgery on that court or Catholic court, depending on what's needed.
Cameron: it's really interesting though, what you said about the divorce thing because yeah, 50% of marriages ended divorce and so legally they might be done, but as you said, energetically, they're not.
The value
Track 1: are in denial when they go into the, the, the marriages like, oh, till delve was part, I'm like, ugh.
Cameron: How about [00:35:00] until, until
we
Track 1: know it sounds Al
Cameron: George's vows. Yeah. I'll be in relationship with you until it's not fun anymore. Okay.
Track 1: Exactly.
Cameron: do we need a contract for anyway? Well, um, let me ask you this. Do you think you've discovered your soul's purpose?
Track 1: Yes. Now, I have something to say about that. So my second book, which is called Lightworkers Gotta Work, it's all about finding and following your purpose. So in the book, I teach how to define your purpose in a very specific two paragraph definition. And for many years, I'm like, you find the purpose, that's the purpose, you follow the purpose.
And I still believe that. This very specific mission that only we can fulfill and without us, the world wouldn't know how to fulfill. I still believe that, but my ideas about that have expanded a little bit more in the past two years in a very exciting way. Cause as [00:36:00] I'm exploring my own purpose and engaging with my purpose, I learned new things about it.
I realized that yes, our purpose is very specific. And by the way, of course we have sub purposes, but they all belong to the same purpose. Okay, but they all belong to the same mission, a mission. And the way that I define it in the book is that we have, and by the way, this is a play on terms. I know you, you may use different terms, but go with the hierarchy that I have here.
So we have our Lightworker Purpose, which is our collective purpose as Lightworkers to ascend the vibration of the world. Then we have our Soul Realm Purpose, which is our soul's realms collective purpose. Okay, groups of soul that have collective purposes. And then we have our soul purpose, which is a purpose fulfilled over several lifetimes.
And this is a personal purpose. So I may be in the fifth lifetime of fulfilling my 10 year soul purpose right now, for example. And then we have our life purpose, which is a [00:37:00] step towards fulfilling our soul's purpose. So that life purpose is a very specific mission. It's a step towards fulfilling the wider soul purpose, which contributes to the soul realm, which contributes to the collective Lightworker purpose.
Cameron: and I'm sure this conversation for you is part of your life purpose.
Track 1: It is. And what I'm about to say, because our life purpose is not necessarily one single expression of who we are. It can express in various ways. There may be different expressions of that purpose. And this is very true for people who are multi passionate. And I feel, I believe that most of us, if not all of us, are multi passionate, but we haven't realized it because we live in a patriarchal world that wants us to define ourselves in a very specific box.
As soon as we're, we're born, we kind of articulate words. Our parents and the people around us are like, so what do you [00:38:00] want to be when you grow up? They don't ask you, what things do you want to do when you grow up?
Cameron: Or who?
Track 1: what do you want to be? Or who are you? They ask you, who, what do you want to do? And it's one thing.
You're not allowed to say multiple things. They force you to choose. Okay, so we, they condition us from a very young age that we have to be one, but we're multi dimensional people. We're not meant to do just one thing. Yes, our purpose can be a singular purpose, but I can express it in this way and through that medium and through the other medium, and that's okay.
Just not all of them at the same time, because then we're like splitting ourselves too thin. And I realized this with my own life, I'm multi passionate. I always been interested in. performing, acting, singing, dancing, and also spirituality, writing books, teaching, etc. And at some point in my life, I made the decision, conscious decision, to quit performance and [00:39:00] focus on running a business, a spiritual business, writing books, etc.
And I've done that for 10 years. And then on the seventh year, I heard the door of my performance stuff that I locked in a closet years ago say, I want to sing. And I'm like, nope. Nope, nope, nope. Your purpose is to be a spiritual teacher. Another knock. I want to act. Nope, you're not gonna do this. Shut up, shut up.
Just, just be there and write books. Again, another knock. I want to dance. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. You have to launch this course. Until I couldn't ignore it anymore. I'm like, you know what? What if I give it an opportunity to talk and express himself? So I let Performance George come to the surface. And I realized it's not really impeding me for following my Other expression of my purpose.
It's helping me. It's adding to me because guess what? What am I doing right now? I'm acting in some way I'm performing. I'm putting on a show I've learned skills in [00:40:00] drama school that I'm using right now to communicate a message Because they all work together because if you're born with certain talents and proclivities and interests That is your purpose, to be that, not to deny who you are.
Cameron: Hmm. Yeah, and it's the self denial that has people. Confused and thinking that they're not worthy and all of these sorts of things, when in actuality there is a mission that you have and you sitting there not being you, it's not helping
Track 1: Yes. Exactly. The world needs who we are, the whole of us, not just what our parents force us to think and say that we want to be when we grow up.
Cameron: Hmm. Hmm. Also, I really wanna say, I love the way you say purpose.
Track 1: How do I say [00:41:00] purpose? Okay, now I hear it. I'm really bad with accents.
Cameron: No, you're not.
Track 1: Something drama school hasn't helped me.
Cameron: No, that was one of the things we were, I remember a conversation, George and I were at dinner when we were in Athens and we were talking about accents and I think you were talking about like the Cyprian versus like how people speak
in Greek.
Track 1: Greek and Cyprian are different. Yes, the accents. We speak Greek, but it's a different accent. Yes.
Cameron: Yeah.
Track 1: Same thing with, I mean, American and British. I mean, same kind of
Cameron: I
know. And that's while you, you speak more British English, which uh, I guess, right.
Track 1: You know what? My American friends tell me this and my British friends tell me the exact opposite.
Because it's really a mix of both.
Cameron: Yeah, I know you don't necessarily sound Greek though when you speak English.
I've heard, I mean, when I was in Greece
Track 1: sound from all over the place.
Cameron: Yeah, when I, when I was in Greece, I heard Greek people speak English and you don't sound like [00:42:00] them.
Track 1: No, no, no, I don't. And I don't even sound Cypriot. I'm telling you, it's like, it's a, it's a mezcla, if I say it in Spanish, because I speak Spanish as well. It's a mix of everything.
Cameron: Of everything. Well, I think you just said it, but what do you think is the biggest barrier to living our purpose?
Track 1: Good question. The biggest barrier to living our purpose, not taking risks. Because we are, we love safety. We love feeling safe. The ego loves feeling safe. So when you introduce something new, Oh, let's try something new, a new hobby, or something, whatever, something different. The ego's like, no, no, no, no, no, what if you die?
Like, no, no, but it's just ceramics, I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make a bowl. Yeah, but what if you eat the clay accidentally, and then you get poisoned, and you die? Because the ego is there to protect us, so the ego will make any excuse to self sabotage. The ego wants to keep us [00:43:00] safe, but when you start training the ego with little risks, like yeah, I'm gonna get close to the clay and see how it feels to touch the clay.
The ego's like, uh, okay. You may die, but okay, probably not. You can try. So you touch the clay and they go like, Oh, okay. Getting used to this. Change. Okay. And then I'm like, okay, ego, I'm gonna take a bigger risk. Okay, I'm gonna make a ball, like a ball of clay. They go like, are you sure you make a dirty and then you may lick your fingers and accidentally die from the poison that's in the clay?
Like, no, no, no, no, I'm really gonna keep my, my hands away. And the ego's like, okay, sure, go for it. And then the ego gets trained, okay, he took another risk, and he didn't die. I can relax a little bit more. And then slowly the ego relaxes more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more.
Then you can start taking bigger risks. And why am I saying risk [00:44:00] here? Because unless you try something different from what you're already doing, you cannot really find your purpose. you're gonna be saying if you are sitting here wondering what is my purpose That means you you don't think you found it and to understand that you found it You have to engage with life and to engage it with life.
You have to do something else than what you've been doing So when people ask me, I don't know what to do. I say do anything because when you do anything You're going to engage with that and you're going to know it's for me or it's not for me. And then from then on, you can pivot
Cameron: Yeah.
Track 1: and try different things until you find something that feels like a hell yes.
And that's your purpose.
Cameron: to be willing to take the risks necessary to explore. Um,
I definitely loved your example. I think in the future, um, it may be stronger if you, the example was rock climbing[00:45:00]
Track 1: I just used clay because I went pottery today. I had my pottery class.
Cameron: I'm like...
dying from clay. Okay, sure. Fine. Pottery. That's dangerous. What's it gonna explode
when you put in
Track 1: fresh in my mind, Cameron.
Cameron: But for sure, I thought you were going to like rock climbing. I'm like, oh, pottery. Okay. But anyway, the point was still excellent. Um,
Track 1: Yes, you got the point.
Cameron: One. Yeah. One piece at a time. And teaching your nervous system and your ego that like, oh, you can handle this. And as you're saying, yeah, we don't take these risks, then we're not even taking a step down our path or anybody's path for that matter.
We don't even know which path we're, 'cause we're not even walking,
Track 1: Exactly.
Cameron: Hmm. So what do you think it means to live with purpose?
Track 1: To live with purpose.[00:46:00]
It means to constantly search for purpose because the purpose is constantly revealing itself to you and at any point. You're, you have a different readiness to knowing that purpose, because if you asked me 10 years ago, what's your purpose, I would have told you something different than what I told you today.
If you ask me tomorrow, it's still going to be the same, but there's going to be something else to it. A new nuance. So by engaging with a purpose, by searching for purpose, you refine the purpose
Cameron: Hmm.
Track 1: more and more.
Cameron: Beautiful. And it really is about the engagement with your life, and this is
why when I. The work that I do is about supporting people in aligning with their higher self so that they can live their purpose. Why? Because it is gonna change, because you do
evolve, because you do grow because you're in a [00:47:00] constant state of evolution. And so yeah, to land on one little purpose right here, right now, you should be doing this, is actually doing a disservice to your entire being, your soul, your higher self, all of it. Uh, right, because then you're pigeonholing yourself. But when you learn to actually live in alignment with your guidance, with who you truly are, with your higher self, um, you're always gonna be on your path.
Track 1: hmm.
Cameron: Yeah. Beautiful. Well, thank you George, so much for this conversation today. It's been so fun to connect with you again.
Track 1: Likewise. Thank you so much for
having me.
Cameron: very welcome and for those of you who'd like to connect with George and his work, you can find out, his information in the show notes. Thanks, George.
Along my own spiritual journey and from my experience supporting people in living their soul's purpose, I've discovered that living in alignment with our purpose comes down to three things. And unfortunately, most people unknowingly [00:48:00] ignore these three things that will actually help them live in alignment. These three things form my Soul's Purpose Framework.
If you're ready to learn how these things can support you in your spiritual journey. Check out my video resource, "The 3 Keys to Your Soul's Purpose".
In it, I share my framework for helping you identify what's the next best step. On your journey to living your purpose. You can find this free video resource on my website at yourpathandpurpose.com and I left a link to it in the show notes. A special thanks to this week's guest for sharing their journey with us. And I want to thank you for listening to today's episode. My name is Dr. Cameron Martin, and it has been my honor to serve you on your journey of self-discovery. See you next time.